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What should be done...

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:31 pm
by Nightshade
This is something that should be done to all centers of islamic jihadist indoctrination:

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Commandos cleared the warren-like Red Mosque complex of rebel fighters Wednesday, ending a fierce eight-day siege and street battles that left more than 80 dead, and the government warned it would not tolerate militancy in any of Pakistan’s thousands of religious schools.

Maj. Gen. Waheed Arshad said the compound was still being combed for mines, booby traps and other weaponry. “The first phase of the operation is over. There are no more militants left inside,” Arshad said in a telephone interview.

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz told reporters that no bodies of women and children had been found inside the sprawling complex and said the probability such bodies would be found during the “mopping up” operation was low. “The major group of women was all together and came out all together,” he said, referring to 27 women and three children who emerged from the mosque Tuesday. ...

More than 50 militants and 10 soldiers were killed and 33 wounded in the final, 35-hour assault by the elite Special Services Group which began early Tuesday, the army said. The dead including the mosque’s pro-Taliban cleric Abdul Rashid Ghazi.

The commandos went in after unsuccessful attempts to get the mosque’s militants to surrender to a weeklong siege mounted by the government following deadly street clashes with armed supporters of the mosque on July 3.

The extremists had been using the mosque as a base to send out radicalized students to enforce their version of Islamic morality, including abducting alleged prostitutes and trying to “re-educate” them at the compound in the heart of Pakistan’s capital.


May those \"holy men\" rot in hell.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:53 pm
by Isaac
what should be done is we drop tons of American media on that country and destroy their culture with our anarchist punk rock and fast food. <- Slowest but strongest weapon we have.

Re: What should be done...

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:56 pm
by Lothar
ThunderBunny wrote:This is something that should be done to all centers of islamic jihadist indoctrination
That's a bit extreme, don't you think?

In this particular case, the mosque was being used as a base of operations for what amounted to a religious gang. They'd go out and "enforce" their religious ideals through beatings and such. It makes sense the police and/or army should get involved and shut it down.

But if they're just teaching nutjobbery, there's no need to get all violent on their shiznit.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:18 pm
by Testiculese
Why not? Violence is their version of Apple Pie

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:35 pm
by Kilarin
Testiculese wrote:Why not? Violence is their version of Apple Pie
Because conservatives Christians are often accused of teaching nutjoberry, and I don't want the government deciding that it's job involves killing people who teach nutjobbery, since that list might include me.

Lothar is dead on, when you have proof of violence, ACT. But being an idiot is not illegal.

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:43 pm
by Duper
Kilarin wrote:..But being an idiot is not illegal.
I dunno.. I've seen some pretty good example in my time that give it just cause. ;)

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:50 am
by Ford Prefect
I saw that article on I believe the BBC site. The interesting thing is the claim that no women or children were killed even though there were 19 bodies charred beyond recognition and if you read a little father the wife of the leader was one of the dead. Wasn't she a woman? Typical government spin writing.
At least Pakistan acted against this particular madras but Pakistan is still the leading source of radicalised Muslim extremists and home to most of the training camps for suicide bombers in the mid-east. Keep your enemies close, keep your friends closer.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:06 am
by dissent
I thought the quote was \"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer\" 8)

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:05 pm
by Ferno
Hey, I got a better idea. Remove all the extremists. including you.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:28 pm
by WillyP
If we go blowing up people for being 'nutjobbery' how can we claim we are better than them? Answer is, we won't be.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:36 pm
by Krom
Yeah but if we succeed, the victor is always correct and gets to write the history books so in 200 years nobody would be any the wiser. :P :roll:

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:55 am
by woodchip
I say open Christian schools next door to the muslum extremist schools and teach the christian children to hate muslums :wink:

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:50 am
by DCrazy
woodchip wrote:I say open Christian schools next door to the muslum extremist schools and teach the christian children to hate muslums :wink:
I don't think Pakistan is that interested in adopting American culture.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:20 am
by Testiculese
Hope not, for their sake.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:00 pm
by Sniper
Get rid of religion.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:49 pm
by Testiculese
Well, that would solve EVERYONE's problems!

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:36 pm
by Duper
Sniper wrote:Get rid of religion.
been tried recently...twice.

Call it Soviet Union and China.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:51 pm
by Testiculese
That was the least of their problems tho'. I think corruption, murder and absolute authority was the problem there. Wow, kinda like this place is becoming.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:56 pm
by Nightshade
If religion didn't exist, humans would find something else to fight and kill over. We're still quite the animals.

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:27 pm
by TIGERassault
Sniper wrote:Get rid of religion.
Nah...

Get rid of people. As in, all people! Now that's how you solve the problem!

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:47 pm
by Krom
TIGERassault wrote:Get rid of people. As in, all people! Now that's how you solve the problem!
Curing the disease by killing the patient? Granted that is about the only thing we know that is guaranteed to work. :P

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:06 am
by dissent
ok, how about lobotomies all around, then the last surgeon has to agree to commit suicide ...

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:31 am
by Gooberman
The surgeon would then just step into a closet, fire the gun into the ground, come out, and tell everyone he rose from the dead. Thus declaring himself a God to the half-brained people, and the process would start all over again.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:04 am
by Testiculese
Haha. He woulnd't even need to go that far, as everyone would have forgotten to what he agreed.

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:14 am
by MD-2389
Gooberman wrote:The surgeon would then just step into a closet, fire the gun into the ground, come out, and tell everyone he rose from the dead. Thus declaring himself a God to the half-brained people, and the process would start all over again.
Or just jump out of the closet and yell "BOO!".....and then they'll all think he's the new satan! :P