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Aerogel - coming to a space suit near you...
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:34 am
by Gekko71
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:23 am
by Neo
o_o
r0xx0r ^_~
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:49 pm
by Blue
this could do a LOT to revolutionize everything from weaponry to household appliances. Question is.. is it biodegradable?
Last thing we need is to create another \"plastic\" crisis by utilizing a material which takes millions of years to biodegrade or expells toxic pollutants when melted down...
If this is a recyclable material, it very well COULD revolutionize the world.
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:59 pm
by Lothar
I have much lurb for aerogel. It's amazing stuff.
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:01 pm
by Gekko71
Lothar wrote:I have much lurb for aerogel. It's amazing stuff.
It sounds like you're familar with the stuff Lothar - do you know it from your work or something - and if so, in what capacity?

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:06 am
by roid
i think i wrote some ZZZonline articles about Aerogel back in the day. It's been out a looooooongcat time.
seeing it in action is pretty spectacular.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aerogel
I wouldn't worry Blue, it's easily crushed, it's like 99.999999% nothing. IIRC the latest aerogels are nothing but Carbon and um.... methanol or air or vacuum or something (i forget).
it pings & rings just like glass when you tap it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:27 pm
by Lothar
Gekko71 wrote:do you know it from your work or something
I taught at an air and space museum, so I heard a lot about it in conjunction with
Stardust.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:30 pm
by JMEaT
Wow that's some cool stuff.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:28 am
by roid
something i've always wondered: If the space between the fibers of Aerogel is vacuum - would it be possible to make an Aerogel solid that is lighter than air? that would be amazing, i'd pay $50 for that
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:59 pm
by TIGERassault
roid wrote:something i've always wondered: If the space between the fibers of Aerogel is vacuum - would it be possible to make an Aerogel solid that is lighter than air? that would be amazing, i'd pay $50 for that
Dude! I'd pay $500 for that! Even $5,000! I mean, you could pretty much fly using it!
Wait, is it a vacuum?
Oh, and according to Wikipedia:
"The world's lowest-density solid is a silica nanofoam at 1 mg/cm3, which is the evacuated version of the record-aerogel of 1.9 mg/cm3. The density of air is 1.2 mg/cm3."
Also, it's worth remembering that Aerogel is very absorbent and don't last very long before disintegrating. Which makes it pretty incompatible as building material.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:41 pm
by roid
well thar you go!
evacuated silica nanofoam, 20% lighter than air itself
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:10 pm
by Genghis
roid wrote:well thar you go!
evacuated silica nanofoam, 20% lighter than air itself
Then why doesn't it float up like an He2 balloon? At least, not in the video posted above.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:52 pm
by roid
coz it's not evacuated in those videos, it's probabaly full of air or aids or something.
btw helium is about 10% the weight of air, this EVACUATED aerogel is only 80% the weight of air. It's not gonna shoot anywhere too fast

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:09 am
by Genghis
Heh, caveat emptor! Dude spent $150 on non-evacuated aerogel. Or maybe he should have bought some evacugel?
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:06 pm
by Tunnelcat
If the aerogel was evacuated of all air, wouldn't the surrounding air pressure crush it flat when it was exposed to the atmosphere?
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:58 pm
by Ferno
nope. It's like a thermos bottle, only without the glass.