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So long \"AutoPatcher\"
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:30 pm
by Duper
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
by Top Wop
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, autopatcher actually HELPED and PROMOTED M$ by making the fixes easier to obtain and apply.
Its almost like MS doesn't want to have a positive image. Its like they have a public relations department whose objective is to make them look bad instead of good, like when they sued that 17-year old a few years back because they thought people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Microsoft and Mike Rowe Soft.
I am continually astounded, and I am continually compelled to put up with some of the sh!tness of Linux and move all of my Windows games to that OS under Wine,
just so I can say I have nothing to do with Micro$uck.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:08 pm
by Krom
Alternate program that can still get most of the job done and save you a lot of time and effort next time you format:
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:28 pm
by Duper
Thanks Krom!
And Top, be forewarned. Wine doesn't run all windows games. hehe.. ironically, it runs windows programs only a little better than Vista does. ...but for different reasons I imagine. There are others here that can answer that better than I.
It's kinda a craps shoot as to what will run. Hit the forums before you make that leap and see what runs well or at all under Wine.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:58 pm
by roid
we can still use things like
http://www.windizupdate.com/ instead of windowsupdate though.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:00 pm
by Top Wop
Duper wrote:And Top, be forewarned. Wine doesn't run all windows games.
I
know that. I was illustrating a point that I would make some sacrifices. What, you think im a dummy?
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:39 pm
by Duper
Top Wop wrote:Duper wrote:And Top, be forewarned. Wine doesn't run all windows games.
I
know that. I was illustrating a point that I would make some sacrifices. What, you think im a dummy?
oh um.. drunk?
that's what I get for posting from work
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:43 am
by Sirius
MS probably should consider facilitating something like that themselves if they're that worried about third-party involvement with the patching process.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:51 am
by Strife
I am so tempted to switch to Linux... You guys think rainbow 6 vegas would work in it?
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:56 pm
by Duper
Sirius wrote:MS probably should consider facilitating something like that themselves if they're that worried about third-party involvement with the patching process.
with their "Genuine MS Assurance" program that reloads everytime you update from their site, it's little wonder they're so persnickety. I'm sure they'll be the same way even after they discontinue supporting update downloads.
And Strife.. yes it will, but I think I remember reading somewhere that it involves alchemy.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:06 pm
by Top Wop
Duper wrote:with their "Genuine MS Assurance" program...
You mean Windows Genuine Advantage.
Posting from work again eh? Or is it really the drink?
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:50 pm
by Duper
Top Wop wrote:Duper wrote:with their "Genuine MS Assurance" program...
You mean Windows Genuine Advantage.
Posting from work again eh? Or is it really the drink?
lil' of both
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:28 pm
by Sirius
I thought WGA only applied to some updates?
Edit: Besides which, WGA could be implemented as a check before installation, instead of being necessary for the download - it isn't like it's impossible to get the files through other means anyway.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:39 pm
by Aus-RED-5
Sirius wrote:I thought WGA only applied to some updates?
Nope... anytime you do a fresh install and then goto the MS site for updates. It will install the WGA first before you can update.
Because of this, WinXP needs to be activated so that the WGA checks to make sure you have a genuine copy, before updates.
With AutoPatcher, you could get around this if you didn't have a genuine copy.
So, it's no surprise they finally got told to take it down.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:47 pm
by fliptw
is WGA still an optional download from WU?
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:43 pm
by Testiculese
I don't use the WGA, There's an alternate version that downloads a standard exe and does some checks locally, and gives you a code you can copy/paste into WU. Check at the bottom of any page that said Authentication Required.
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:00 pm
by DCrazy
fliptw wrote:is WGA still an optional download from WU?
If it is, they do a damn good job of hiding it. I love how after Windows decides to download an update, you can't cancel that specific update's installation. *miffed*
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:59 pm
by Top Wop
WGA became compulsory a long time ago. I thought you guys knew.