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Configuring D3 Mouse Control

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:07 pm
by Red_5
Hey, all. I've discovered something about D3 that I really hate... if you press too many keys at once, the keyboard stops responding, so to work around this, I've started using mouse control.

The problem is I can't play with inverted mouse, and most servers ban Mouselook.

What I'm looking for is either a way to invert the Flight Sim mouse control, or override the server's setting for Mouselook.

Thanks for your input!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:19 pm
by d3jake
Well overriding the server's mouselook would be considered cheating, since those on KB and joy can't turn 180deg in 1s. As for inverting the mouse, I think you should be able to click on the little ? in front of the control (to the left) and set it to be reversed, if I recall correctly. I haven't messed with those settings recently, so I dont know 100%

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:21 pm
by Red_5
Hmm. I don't like to use mouselook as much as flightsim... it's to jerky. If I can invert the flightsim, all I need is a way to increase the sensitivity beyond the limit...

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:38 pm
by Krom
You can invert axis by pressing the \"?\" button in joy/mouse config that is to the left of the assignments, you can also adjust the sensitivity by clicking \"adjust settings\" on the top.

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In flightsim mode you can only turn so fast, you are limited by the speed that the ship can actually turn. All players are subject to this same limit, Descent doesn't play like quake or other mouse controlled first person shooters. The way the game works, nothing is as responsive as the keyboard, but also nothing is as clunky and imprecise as the keyboard.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:52 pm
by Red_5
Ok. I'll check this out, and maybe buy a nice Saitek joystick. Thanks for your help.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:22 pm
by Foil
If you're still having keyboard conflicts, you might also try something like this, it's worked perfectly for me.

And x2 on what d3jake and Krom said. There are very good reasons for not allowing mouselook in online play.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:27 pm
by Red_5
oh. oh I see. I liked mouselook because it was the only non-inverted mode of mouse control, until I found out about the invert button thingy. Although I still want a Saitek.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:19 am
by d3jake
If you have a WalMart nearby, you can get a cheap Satiek stick (Saitek ST290 Pro) for $20, I used one for a while, I had to muscle it aound when used it, but with a newer one I was able to get, it was much looser.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:31 pm
by Red_5
I like the Saitek ST290. I've used it a lot. Maybe you use force feedback, mmm?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:12 pm
by d3jake
Heh, I know the difference and the box said NOTHING about force feedback, i think I just got a REALLY stiff spring on that one...

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:58 am
by Red_5
Yeah, I like the Saitek joysticks. They even have those nifty wrist rests. I think I'll sell my Ulead Video Studio 5 and get an ST290.

Re: Configuring D3 Mouse Control

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:15 am
by MD-2389
Red_5 wrote:Hey, all. I've discovered something about D3 that I really hate... if you press too many keys at once, the keyboard stops responding *snip*
Tried going into your BIOS and increasing the repeat rate for your keyboard?

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:25 pm
by Red_5
I don't want to jack anything up there, but I know that won't fix it. It does it on every single computer I try, but it doesn't do this with any other game on the planet.

Re: Configuring D3 Mouse Control

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:19 am
by BUBBALOU
Red_5 wrote:Hey, all. I've discovered something about D3 that I really hate... if you press too many keys at once, the keyboard stops responding, so to work around this, I've started using mouse control.
That is not D3 causing the problem, it is the Chorded Limit of YOUR cheap keyboard

Get a Keytronic Lifetime Series II ps2/usb flavors

cheap keyboard 3 keys at once max
semi-cheap keyboard 5 keys at once max

Lifetime Series II - as many fingers you can muster

Oh and what i Mean by cheap is not the Price ! it's the quality of the chip on the board

Only Thing Descent 3 has an Issue with is Multiple hardware of multiple Devices

IE
1 keyboard + 1 mouse + 2 joysticks = OK
1 keyboard + 1 mouse + 4 joysticks = OK
2 keyboards + 1 mouse + 2 joysticks = BAD will not see second+joy

Re: Configuring D3 Mouse Control

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:00 pm
by Red_5
BUBBALOU wrote:
Red_5 wrote:Hey, all. I've discovered something about D3 that I really hate... if you press too many keys at once, the keyboard stops responding, so to work around this, I've started using mouse control.
That is not D3 causing the problem, it is the Chorded Limit of YOUR cheap keyboard

Get a Keytronic Lifetime Series II ps2/usb flavors

cheap keyboard 3 keys at once max
semi-cheap keyboard 5 keys at once max

Lifetime Series II - as many fingers you can muster

Oh and what i Mean by cheap is not the Price ! it's the quality of the chip on the board

Only Thing Descent 3 has an Issue with is Multiple hardware of multiple Devices

IE
1 keyboard + 1 mouse + 2 joysticks = OK
1 keyboard + 1 mouse + 4 joysticks = OK
2 keyboards + 1 mouse + 2 joysticks = BAD will not see second+joy
But guess what. Descent 3 does this on every single computer I have tried, and Descent 1 % 2 DON'T do this. I am 100% sure it is the game.

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:25 pm
by Foil
If D3 does it, then D1/D2 will (albeit possibly with different combinations of keys). B is right, it's not a Descent3 problem, it's a keyboard/BIOS limitation.

(So do what I did after I got tired of key conflicts, get something like a Belkin Nostromo N52.)