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Ron Paul a Racist?

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:39 pm
by Dakatsu
I was watching a youtube video, and someone spammed that Ron Paul was a racist. Natrually, I often will slightly look into claims like these, often with no results to note that I am not at fault, but a lot of websites have this article quoted, both conservative and liberal:
Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,” Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although “we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.”

Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government” and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
Now, I cannot find a source for this article, but it has been found in quotes enough, can anyone confirm or deny this?

On his website, it says this:
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution.

A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.

The collectivist mindset is at the heart of racism.

Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry. Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations.

It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender. Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails. Government \"benevolence\" crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility among us.

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called \"diversity\" actually perpetuate racism.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.

In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
But hell, Mitt Romney said that he was for abortion, so hey. If he is a racist, then that scratches out all the political candidates I could possibly like :(

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:27 am
by TIGERassault
Hmm... it's a tough situation there. Because even though he's being blatantly racist and exaggerating, there are a higher percentage of black people commiting crimes than white people, due to them still being stuck in the poorer parts of the country due to the aftermath of when there was racism in the country, and that point is brought up much less than it should be.

Also, it would appear that even if they are true, they've been reported from over 8 years ago.


Edit: Actually, I just noticed that you only found four racist comments. I really wouldn't even consider him to be racist if that's all he said.

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:34 am
by CUDA
TIGERassault wrote: Edit: Actually, I just noticed that you only found four racist comments. I really wouldn't even consider him to be racist if that's all he said.
only 4 huh. tell that to Trent Lott and other top republican's if you connected one of the Top republican candidates with just 1 racial comment the left would be calling for his head. glad to see you can be so lenient while others would crucify.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:37 am
by Testiculese
I'm surprised it took this long for the undermining to begin. Must be getting credible.

Facts aren't racist. Just because 90% of the crime is by black people doesn't mean he thinks they are niggers.

Why is critical thinking so absent in this country.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:52 pm
by Ferno
you know the answer to that testi.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:19 pm
by Cuda68
Is'nt he the big tranny?? How can he/she be a racist?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:24 pm
by Dakatsu
Wha? CUDA and Cuda68? did I miss something?!?!?!?! :?

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:50 pm
by CUDA
Dakatsu wrote:Wha? CUDA and Cuda68? did I miss something?!?!?!?! :?
UHMM yes you did

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:15 am
by Cuda68
heh - by about 7 years or so - lol

Sorry, just noticed you have only been around a year or so :P

I lurk allot though

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:41 am
by Mickey1
Ron Paul 08

Ron Paul is not a Racist.


Testiculese, Why schools suck.


World wide support:




Funny but True:

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:58 pm
by Mickey1
This guy thinks Ron Paul is a racist. I just don't see it. I think Earl doesn't understand the cost of freedom. You have to take care of yourself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofar ... 79495.html

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:29 pm
by Firewheel
I don't think he's racist, just crazy.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:19 pm
by Mickey1
Radical: yes. Crazy: I don't know about that. Help me out here. Can you describe a view he has that does not reflect reality?


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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:30 pm
by MD-2389
Testiculese wrote:Why is critical thinking so absent in this country.
Because it requires effort. Theres also the fact that some people take facts, and twist them from what they are and say its racist. Just like the people in the ghetto in New Orleans during Katrina. Just because alot of them didn't get out, and didn't get aid for days, the government MUST be racist. :roll: Its not racism, its nothing more than just population. I could take his quote about the blacks in LA, and apply it to Memphis and it would fit perfectly. Why? The majority of the population in Memphis are blacks. Its simple numbers, not racism.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:10 pm
by Mickey1
MD-2389, Effort and education to give you the tools to be able to reason. Most people don't know the difference between empirical fact, subjective opinion and definitional statements. If you can't classify statements into these three categories you don't have a chance for critical thinking. Carlin is right on the money in this clip why this is the case with most people.


Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:37 am
by Mickey1
Dakatsu here is a video from the Bill Moyers show on PBS. Ron Paul directly answering the question of Racism. A Libertarian can't be a Racist by definition.


Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:58 am
by Dakatsu
Thanks guys, just wanted the fact check to make sure I was right :)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:21 am
by Mickey1
NAACP President: Ron Paul Is Not A Racist
Linder says Paul being smeared because he is a threat to the establishment.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... racist.htm