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Pentium 4 Socket 478 Extreme Edition 3.4 GHz

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:57 am
by AceCombat
im trying to find if there are any P4 EE CPU's left out there to buy, ive tried all the places i know, but you guys know of more places.


can yall start naming off some of the websites where you buy your computer parts?

im looking specifically for a SL7CH 3.4 GHz Socket 478 Pentium 4 Extreme Edition CPU


ive already hit ebay, newegg, tiger, zipzoom, frys, craigslist, amazon, and a couple others

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:03 am
by Krom
Such an expensive chip probably didn't make it around in circulation that much, and the P4 really isn't worth the trouble.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:41 am
by AceCombat
okay so do you have any suggestions to help me find some? any other places other than the ones i listed?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:59 am
by flip
Try this guy right here. 770-942-0021. If I'm not mistaken he has about 20 pc's with that same cpu in it. They also have a 36 gig scsi drive in them. The scsi is controller is built-in. Not sure if thats a plus or minus. I would have bought one had the controller been an add-in card. 200 bucks for the whole tower.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:33 pm
by AceCombat
thats not too far from me.... ill give him a call

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:52 am
by fliptw
that being said...

why not just upgrade to Core 2? You'll have to do it at some point.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:07 pm
by Neo
Get Core 2 or Core i7... you know you want to. =P

Re:

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:20 am
by Krom
Neo wrote:Get Core 2 or Core i7... you know you want to. =P
Depends on what you are going to do with it. Web/database applications, etc ---> get the Core i7. Generic gaming/consumer stuff ---> Core 2.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:47 am
by fliptw
Core i7 is the yet to be released successor to Core 2.

Krom has confused i7 with the Atom processor.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:18 pm
by Krom
Uhh... nope, Atom is for ultra low power stuff. Core i7 (aka Nehalem) is a new micro-architecture to succeed the Core 2, however it won't be significantly faster at gaming than the Core 2 is. What it will be faster at is massive database work because of more and improved branch prediction and prefetchers. It will also improve upon virtualization, and be able to extract a bit more performance in a few spots because of the return of hyper-threading.

While some of this will help games, there are some things that will hurt games, for one the L2 cache is going from a massive 4-6 MB to a comparatively puny 256 KB. There is a 8 MB L3 cache to help and the memory controller is integrated on the CPU, however the L3 cache is slow and the memory controller can only do so much to hide the increased cache misses for games from a smaller L2.

In other words Core i7/Nehalem isn't meant for improving gaming/home/office/email/surfing or playing media files, instead it is targeted for server space.

Read on here: http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:57 pm
by AceCombat
i called that store and they no longer have Socket 478's.


guess ill have to save up even more and move on to a LGA775

Re:

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:11 am
by Neo
Krom wrote:Uhh... nope, Atom is for ultra low power stuff. Core i7 (aka Nehalem) is a new micro-architecture to succeed the Core 2, however it won't be significantly faster at gaming than the Core 2 is. What it will be faster at is massive database work because of more and improved branch prediction and prefetchers. It will also improve upon virtualization, and be able to extract a bit more performance in a few spots because of the return of hyper-threading.

While some of this will help games, there are some things that will hurt games, for one the L2 cache is going from a massive 4-6 MB to a comparatively puny 256 KB. There is a 8 MB L3 cache to help and the memory controller is integrated on the CPU, however the L3 cache is slow and the memory controller can only do so much to hide the increased cache misses for games from a smaller L2.

In other words Core i7/Nehalem isn't meant for improving gaming/home/office/email/surfing or playing media files, instead it is targeted for server space.

Read on here: http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480
I'll read that (again?) in a bit, but didn't Core i7 sm0ke Core 2 Extreme in gaming benchies? :)

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:41 am
by Krom
Any benchmarks of the i7 are either completely fake, or strictly controlled by Intel. I wouldn't put much stock in either of those options.

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:21 pm
by Neo
well, the benchies for Core 2 were \"strictly controlled by Intel\" too, and they turned out to be accurate, remember? =P