Joe Biden
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Joe Biden
So, we have a Sarah Palin thread, where all the republicans are praising her, so lets talk about Joe Biden!
I like his uh..... he is better than Hillary because..... he bests Caroline Kennedy in... wait... no..... he has a great... he is so... hmmm....
Anyone else think, of all the people Obama could of chose, Biden was a pretty dull one?
I like his uh..... he is better than Hillary because..... he bests Caroline Kennedy in... wait... no..... he has a great... he is so... hmmm....
Anyone else think, of all the people Obama could of chose, Biden was a pretty dull one?
Biden was chosen to be a good advisor to Obama and be able to take over the presidency if something were to happen to him -- and as the first Black president, the odds of him being shot are much higher then previous presidents. He was not chosen to win the election.
Pallin was chosen to win the election. Three dots in a triangle: she better be interesting. The shiny object party hit one out of the park with her. And if McCain wins, I will pray every night for his good health. That is no joke....
Pallin was chosen to win the election. Three dots in a triangle: she better be interesting. The shiny object party hit one out of the park with her. And if McCain wins, I will pray every night for his good health. That is no joke....
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That reminds me of the joke that Dave Chappelle told, that if he was running for President he would pick a Mexican for his VP as insurance against assassination.Gooberman wrote:Biden was chosen to be a good advisor to Obama and be able to take over the presidency if something were to happen to him -- and as the first Black president, the odds of him being shot are much higher then previous presidents.....
I have to admit I'd never shoot Obama but now that Biden is his #2 I really, really, won't shoot him!!
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thats probably exactly why he didnt chose Hillary. she wants to be Pres so bad she'd probably off him herself
on a side Note Biden has come out and said Hillary would be a better VP than him. watch for Biden to step down and Hillry to be nominated, as Palin and the GOP are kicking the hell out of the Dem's right now
on a side Note Biden has come out and said Hillary would be a better VP than him. watch for Biden to step down and Hillry to be nominated, as Palin and the GOP are kicking the hell out of the Dem's right now
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Biden was an overly safe pick, the kind of thing you'd expect from a pragmatist. He's not exciting. He was picked from the standpoint of fleshing out the candidate's resume, which is all well and good if you become President. But it neglects the most important part - you have to first become President.
Myself, I believe Obama should have picked Clinton. This isn't a new line of thinking; I thought this even before Biden's pick. In fact, when the Obama campaign had announced that they didn't even vet Clinton for the position, I couldn't help but feel that was reckless and illogical. There's no doubt in my mind that feverish support would follow an Obama-Clinton ticket. Dare I say, he would have \"closed the deal\" as some analysts would say.
If Obama gets to November and fails, I suspect we will look back to this decision and find one of the biggest reasons.
Myself, I believe Obama should have picked Clinton. This isn't a new line of thinking; I thought this even before Biden's pick. In fact, when the Obama campaign had announced that they didn't even vet Clinton for the position, I couldn't help but feel that was reckless and illogical. There's no doubt in my mind that feverish support would follow an Obama-Clinton ticket. Dare I say, he would have \"closed the deal\" as some analysts would say.
If Obama gets to November and fails, I suspect we will look back to this decision and find one of the biggest reasons.
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Seriously... Biden was the wrong pick. I don't know what Obama's team told him about Biden, but as evidenced by Biden's recent statement, it was a bad move.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... ary-a.html
Even IF he felt he wasn't the right person for the job, you shouldn't go blabbing to the media or mentioning it off the cuff as some kind of paid compliment to a former competitor. It calls Biden's judgment into question- and worse still- Obama's. Maybe he was trying to be self-effacing, but it wasn't the right way to do it.
Obama must have mouthed \"W...T...F...\" when he heard the news clip. Watch the video.
Biden: Hillary a Better Pick Than Me
September 10, 2008 5:17 PM
ABC News' Matthew Jaffe reports: Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., vice presidential nominee, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., Wednesday said that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., might have been a better pick for the position than him.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... ary-a.html
Even IF he felt he wasn't the right person for the job, you shouldn't go blabbing to the media or mentioning it off the cuff as some kind of paid compliment to a former competitor. It calls Biden's judgment into question- and worse still- Obama's. Maybe he was trying to be self-effacing, but it wasn't the right way to do it.
Obama must have mouthed \"W...T...F...\" when he heard the news clip. Watch the video.
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I think Biden said it for two reasons. He realizes how the Palin pick is killing Obama with independents and Women...and he was sucking up to the woman who will run against McCain in 4 years if things don't turn around real quick!
It shows me just how unprepared his team is to deal with adversity, it's a bit of panic reaction, Obama was a rock star when only democrats were doing the voting, apparently their hubris sucked them into planning for inauguration instead of debate...
Biden thought he was Ringo being invited to join the Beatles, instead he's finding out how Pete Best felt.
It shows me just how unprepared his team is to deal with adversity, it's a bit of panic reaction, Obama was a rock star when only democrats were doing the voting, apparently their hubris sucked them into planning for inauguration instead of debate...
Biden thought he was Ringo being invited to join the Beatles, instead he's finding out how Pete Best felt.
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I haven't seen it. Did she do something stupid?Gooberman wrote:And after seeing Sarah's interview tonight, I think shes pretty soon gonna start feeling like Yoko Ono.
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Biden almost seems like a real-life \"Chevy Chase\" character. I can almost imagine \"Fletch\" or \"Mr. Grizwald\" uttering these unfortunate words in almost comical, if not sad, situations.Earlier in the week, in Columbia, Missouri, Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized.
\"Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,\" Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Graham uses a wheelchair. \"Oh, God love ya,\" Biden said. \"What am I talking about?\"
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ha ha...barely... but that kind of ridicule is going to cause a lot of people to vote for her....Gooberman wrote:Here Will. Not sure if it will get pulled from copyright.
Ya, I'm sort of resigning myself to this fact. How do you beat the first possible black president? Pick someone straight out of Mayberry, I'd bet money that that was Karl Rove's advice.Will Robenson wrote:ha ha...barely... but that kind of ridicule is going to cause a lot of people to vote for her....
It's a shame she didn't run in 2000 though, because I think Don Knotts would of made an excellent secretary of defense.
(You can get the real interview just by searching for "Sarah Palin first interview" in youtube. I originally had them in my post, but when I saw that last night I couldn't help myself )
Edit: Now I can't get that damn whistling song out of my head. Sigh.....
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Yea, something tells me that Rove and McCain don't talk much.Spidey wrote:I’ll take that bet, and say that she was prolly McCain’s pick.
I've seen parts of the interview now and read what the Obama camp hopes people will think of her answers and I don't think it is going to stick. She did better than they think.
Charlie Gibson kind of showed his hand with the 'Doctrine' question and the 'Gods will' question and when the whole thing gets fleshed out he's going to have some egg on his face....probably gave McCain another 2 or 3 points in the polls among the women and independents too!