The Porkulus bill

VonVulcan · Post by **VonVulcan** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:00 pm

1. Billions of dollars in spending exclusively devoted to benefit federal employees.

* $5.5 billion for making federal buildings \"green\" (including $448 million for the Department of Homeland Security's headquarters)
* $198 million to design and furnish the DHS headquarters
* $200 million for workplace safety in Department of Agriculture facilities
* $75 million for the Smithsonian Institution
* $300 million more for hybrid and electric cars for federal employees (see below)
* $180 million for construction of Bureau of Land Management facilities
* $500 million for wildland fire management
* $110 million for construction for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
* $522 million for construction for the Bureau of Indian Affairs
* $412 million for Centers for Disease Control headquarters
* $500 million earmark for National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland
* $100 million for constructing U.S. Marshalls office buildings
* $300 million for constructing Federal Bureau of Investigation office buildings
* $800 million for constructing Federal Prison System buildings and facilities
* $307 million for constructing National Institute for Standards and Technology office buildings
* $1 billion for administrative costs and construction of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration office buildings

For a more complete list...

http://www.reason.com/news/show/131611.html

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:12 pm

Well there goes 11 billion without touching the problem and hardly creating any new jobs for at least a year or two before the few actual construction projects make it out of commitee...assuming the money is even still there after that process....

Change you can believe in!

Has the Treasury Secretary managed to even hire a staff yet?!? I know he's only had 5 1/2 months to find someone but with all this talk about creating jobs you would think they could at least fill the really important positions that are actually open right now!!!

My biggest fear now is team Obama is really as inept and radically left as his worse critics said he was which puts them (Hannity, Limbaugh et al) in the catbird seat to select our next President...which will probably be Patrick Buchanan with some randomly selected Klansman as vice President!

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:26 pm

Will Robinson wrote:My biggest fear now is team Obama is really as inept and radically left as his worse critics said he was which puts them (Hannity, Limbaugh et al) in the catbird seat to select our next President...which will probably be Patrick Buchanan with some randomly selected Klansman as vice President!

I can see that. I think conservatives need to recognize those people for what they are, and not be tempted to side with them against the liberals. I've been exposed to some of the stuff from the Hal Turner crowd recently, for instance. Those people are liars, and they have their own twisted concept of what America is. I've actually seen statements encouraging supposed American patriots to work with Muslims (funding and weapons supply) to overthrow the present American government.

Our government--our country has some real problems, but it's no good throwing in with the devil to "fix" it. These people are not Americans, and I'm certain they would have their own version of a fascist government set up before long. Ignorant, self-interested fools at best, and downright evil at worst.

On topic: all of this talk about main-street sounds kind of off in view of this extreme government spending, doesn't it? It'll stimulate the economy a little bit, but it sure doesn't look like a solution to me.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:12 pm

To clarify, I watched Limbaugh on CPAC, and I really appreciated most of the things that he said. I wouldn't put him in the same group as Hal Turner at all. I guess the question I might have is whether or not people like him, Sean Hannity, or anyone else on the political right would see fit to speak against that crowd. A difference needs to be made. Not in a spirit of trying get the centrists or the liberals to like us, but because it's just as dangerous to liberty as socialism, for different reasons.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:59 am

ya know.. Japan did the SAME EXACT THING 15 years ago and it never fixed any problems for then either.

stupid humans.