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Sanford and Shun
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:41 am
by Gooberman
Should he resign? People note the double stranded when a democrat does something like this, and a republican...but really, that double standard is of your own creation. I heard Glen Beck just tearing him to shreds this morning. Its your choice to eat your own.
If someone is a good politician, balances the budget, stands on principles...then why should we care if he betrayed his wife?
He owes his wife an explanation, but not the people he serves.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:35 pm
by Duper
it's about ethics and morals Goob.
If he can't be trusted to play fair in his marriage, why should we trust him with a state's affairs?
But I guess that's the disconnect for most.
Where the media is concerned, though, it's just another wounded animal to pick at and create news about. The usual fare.
Re: Sanford and Shun
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:55 pm
by CUDA
Gooberman wrote: stands on principles...then why should we care if he betrayed his wife?
WOW talk about a contradiction in terms. how can you stand on principles and Violate an oath you took to your wife?
He owes his wife an explanation, but not the people he serves.
yes he does. he dissappeared for a week without letting anyone know. he sure as hell does owe the people and explaination.
How can you expect a man to manage a country when he cannot even manage his own life.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:55 pm
by Will Robinson
You seem to be saying that republicans create the double standard because of their moral standards!
The double standard comes into play when democrats want to tear down republicans who cheat on their wives but don't demand the same of their own. So the double standard isn't of republican origin, the republicans are pretty consistent in their expectations of all leaders, they demand a higher level of morality from both parties.
As for Sanford, I voted for him and it won't bother me if he doesn't resign, he's better than most on policy but ultimately I saw his future turning toward the dark side, becoming more of a republican party guy than remaining the statesman he started out as so no big deal for me. He was heading toward a run for president and to get that you have to roll around in the Party bullfeces.
The Lt. Gov. lost me on this one though, he's shown himself to be a whiny little biotch. 'Oh dear! What will we do if we don't know where the Gov. is?!?' does he really think we believe that was his concern?!?@!
If that's his best shot at moving up the ladder he can step off anytime....
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:05 pm
by Gooberman
You seem to be saying that republicans create the double standard because of their moral standards!
Yes but lets be clear, it is the consequence of the moral standards that is in question, not their existence. No democrat thinks its a good thing when one of their own cheats.
What is at issue here isn't morals, but forgiveness of digression.
Work and Private life are different. I can't be trusted to drive the speed limit when I hit the open roads in Arizona. I can't be trusted to hand in a library book on time. (I know, real e-thug here).
But no one I work with, cares. Going 90 on the highway when there isn't a car in sight doesn't make me any less careful in the job I do.
If a guy I worked with cheated, I wouldn't even pause for a second to still go with him for something I needed done.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:31 pm
by Will Robinson
Gooberman wrote:...Work and Private life are different....
If your job was simply to design elevators or count beans...etc. I'd go along with that.
If your job was to create/enforce laws that govern my private life I would be concerned with how you live your life.
Example Obama wants us to vote for his health plan, a plan that he and congress won't downgrade to and use themselves. That is piss poor leadership! They lose their moral authority on that issue....
Sanford also showed us that he is weak and would make selfish decisions, put his wife and children through hell in order to satisfy himself. What other selfish choices will he make at the cost of who?
If Gooberman cheats on his wife it doesn't necessarily mean a whole state or country has to live with the consequences of Goobermans weakness. If Sanford can't resist temptation to satisfy himself it could affect a lot of people.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:28 pm
by Dakatsu
I find it funny that this guy wants to \"defend\" marriage by banning same-sex marriage, but then cheats on his wife. Nice, great way to \"defend\" marriage.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:21 pm
by Will Robinson
Dakatsu wrote:I find it funny that this guy wants to "defend" marriage by banning same-sex marriage, but then cheats on his wife. Nice, great way to "defend" marriage.
I don't know. It's consistent, one man and one woman....at a time
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:41 pm
by Spidey
“If someone is a good politician, balances the budget, stands on principles...then why should we care if he betrayed his wife?”
Lol, that’s the bestest oxymoron I have heard in a good long time.
Well at least the right tries to \"look\" like it has some standards for it’s politicians…lol on that one too.
PS…having character, is doing the right thing when nobody is looking.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:45 pm
by Tunnelcat
Oops! Adultery is a punishable CRIME in South Carolina! Naughty, naughty! The emails were just precious!
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/CODE/t16c015.htm
Edit: Found this. Whenever there's a sex scandal concerning a Republican, Fox News likes to call the offender a Democrat, again!
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