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The most \"open and transparent\" administration in history wishes to take control of the internet (for our own good) if an \"emergency\" should arise.

Now what are the circumstances of such an \"emergency?\" Why would anyone seek to silence avenues of communication any time they choose because they feel an \"emergency\" warrants it?

How would you feel if George Bush and Darth Cheney decided they could shut down your cell phone because of an \"emergency?\" Did they ever even consider such a measure?

No. We can trust Saint Obama with taking care of us by shielding us from \"unnecessary use\" or \"dangerous information\" from the internet at any time by shutting the whole thing down when they think the time is right.

If you voted for Obama, this is your administration in action baby. Hope you like it.

As for the rest of us, we'll have to find other avenues of communication...like carrier pidgeon or two cups and a really long string.



Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.




The new version would allow the president to \"declare a cybersecurity emergency\" relating to \"non-governmental\" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for \"cybersecurity professionals,\" and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

\"I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness,\" said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. \"It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill.\"

Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.

A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president's power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.

When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. \"We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records,\" Rockefeller said.

The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government's role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is \"not as prepared\" as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.

Rockefeller's revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a \"cybersecurity workforce plan\" from every federal agency, a \"dashboard\" pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a \"comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy\" in six months--even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.

The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. \"As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue,\" he says.

Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to \"direct the national response to the cyber threat\" if necessary for \"the national defense and security.\" The White House is supposed to engage in \"periodic mapping\" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies \"shall share\" requested information with the federal government. (\"Cyber\" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)

\"The language has changed but it doesn't contain any real additional limits,\" EFF's Tien says. \"It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)...The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There's no provision for any administrative process or review. That's where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it.\"

Translation: If your company is deemed \"critical,\" a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.

The Internet Security Alliance's Clinton adds that his group is \"supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective.\"
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There is a difference between grounding jets during an attack that physically used them as missles to attack and kill people and a matter of keeping electronic infrastructure out of the hands of terrorists or enemy nations.

Should all telephones be cut because a few of them might be used for terrorists to communicate?

Again, what would you have said if this were done under Bush's charge?
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ThunderBunny wrote:There is a difference between grounding jets during an attack that physically used them as missles to attack and kill people and a matter of keeping electronic infrastructure out of the hands of terrorists or enemy nations.

Should all telephones be cut because a few of them might be used for terrorists to communicate?

Again, what would you have said if this were done under Bush's charge?
So, you're saying that the Bush Administration could not have shut down the 13 internet servers?

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(...getting sucked back into e&c...)
This is so stupid. Some democrats seem to lack the knowledge of how businesses operate under tough conditions. You don't put the US economy in a glass bubble. You allow sections to compete and die. Internet security is no different!!!
There are SOOOO many corporations that would love to take your money to build you a high end security \"black box\". So not only is this \"defense\" a waste of money, it's not even going to be as safe!

Obama was pro net neutrality and was the key reason I even voted for him! This is a step in the wrong direction and if this bill passes I'm going to be really mad. There's not much else I can do...
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tunnelcat wrote:It just shows that leaders in power become corrupted by said power and fall into the trap of squelching any criticism of their policies, even those leaders who pontificated on and on about change and transparency in government.
Good point.

Bee, I don't think the root server thing is quite the same thing, but I'm not supporting Bush for that. If he did it too, it's stupid on his case as well.

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/note to staff on Air Force One: Remove copies of Live Free or Die Hard from DVD library....look for other movies containing uber-effective bad guys and remove them as well....
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Stroodles wrote:*SIDENOTE* This is my 100th post! yay! go
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It's pretty kool that KoolBear is in 6th at 9568 posts after being gone over a year.
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Isaac wrote:
Stroodles wrote:*SIDENOTE* This is my 100th post! yay! go
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It's pretty kool that KoolBear is in 6th at 9568 posts after being gone over a year.
In the best interests of the inhabitants of this board, I derail your hijacking of this thread.

Do you seriously think that The White House can shut down the I-net?

This has got to be the end of the world. Jesus is coming, REPENT!

The internet is PAST blocking. The Chinese can't even stop it. For every "blocker" application, there is an "Anti-Blocker" hax.

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