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Monitor for Photo Editing

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:27 am
by Cyclone
*can this be moved to the tech forum? Posted here by mistake. Sorry *

Good Day,

I am not quite ready to buy a new monitor but I am in the near future. I am looking for a monitor that has awsome realistic color, very small dot pitch and very high rez. I know the high resolution part will be difficult but I'm hoping theres a monitor with a resolution comparable to my old crt.

This was the monitor I was previously using. Anything with comparable or better specs would be great.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/ ... wmgx2.html
20wmgx
Viewable Picture Size 20.1\"
1680x1050
dot pitch 0.258 mm
Contrast Ratio 1600:1
Viewing Angle Hori/vert 178
Super-bright OptiClear DVM screen
technology <-- I really think that helped make the colors as nice as they are.
6ms


ps. Or I would wait for OLED screens. ;) Can't wait for that tech to evolve. 7-10 years...

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:43 am
by Isaac
Fist off your contrast ratio is a bit low. For a 22\" your can get a 8000:1 along with 2ms for $180 USD.

I know you want really great hardware to make good work, but if you go to some schools you'll see some of the cheapest hardware create some really great work. In fact you'll find putting more money inside your chassis will allow more objects, higher resolutions will be more important.

Get a monitor color calibrator. After that you should be fine.

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:43 am
by Cyclone
Edit * crap posted in wrong forum? wanted it in the tech forum. Thanks.

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:49 am
by Cyclone
That is true but photography its really important to have accurate color(large color gamut) and good viewing angles. I can't stand lcds. They are not easy on the eyes and they look grainy becuase of the dot pitch. not to mention a bunch of other complaints.

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:00 pm
by Grendel
Almost any monitor will do as long you invest into a color calibration tool like the Spyder 2. Don't even think that you'll get accurate colors w/o one..

That said, I'm fairly satisfied w/ my calibrated Samsung 245BW (24\", 1920x1200). I'm mildly interested in one of the higher end LED lit monitors, but until they come a long way down in price the Samsung does very well.

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:50 pm
by Duper
If money is not object...

This is THE best monitor to date

The Sony OLED 17\". 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio.

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:57 pm
by Isaac
Duper wrote:If money is not object...

This is THE best monitor to date

The Sony OLED 17". 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio.
Buy 3 to build a tanning bed. :lol:

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:08 pm
by Duper
...i don;t get it.

\"organic light emitting diode\" ...?

sry Issac, very long weekend. ;) :P

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:59 pm
by Sedwick
Duper wrote:If money is not object...

This is THE best monitor to date

The Sony OLED 17". 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio.
What's with the comment that says the blue dies after 2 years?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:21 pm
by Duper
dued wrote:Pros: it is ery bright

Cons: it dies very esaly

this screen is very unique and needs to be perfected for example the blue dies after 2 years and needs to be more reliable.
When he learns how to spell, I'll take that comment seriously.

This product is barely 2 years old.

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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:10 am
by BUBBALOU
Isaac wrote:Buy 3 to build a tanning bed.
Duper ^This^Quote^ = CLUELESS

Cyclone : Grendel has the right advice for you

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:33 pm
by Duper
yup, Thanks Gren! I learned something new! this is great as I deal with this at work all the time. I have two monitors of 2 different brands and getting the color to match is dang near impossible. ... the try to get it to match what comes out on the printer. :P :roll:

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:15 pm
by Grendel
Heh, that OLED screen -- 11\" @ 960x540 ?! Cute :lol:

I get a fairly good color match betw. screen and printer (printer has a way bigger color gammut tho) using color profiles for both while working in Adobe RGB.

The monitor I was eyeballing is the XL24. If I had to get a monitor right now I probably would end up w/ this (detail) or this one.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:46 pm
by Duper
doh! 11\"??? lol.

They do have them in 17\". That's what i get for a cheap. quick post. :P

Given the price difference, I can see why. The Professional line of Viewsonic are good. I've like all the one's Ive seen. I just wasn't able to afford them at the time I was looking.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:50 pm
by BUBBALOU
viewsonic pro ftw

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:57 pm
by HighOctane_Jared
When OLED originally came out, they did have problems with the blue dying early. No idea on that monitor, but that is why they aren't that mainstream.

Though my old Zen MP3 player had one... it was a bit dim.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ is the test I used... still pretty hard to get stuff perfect, especially since I run a 21\" Sceptre and a 20\" Dell, but they are fairly accurate after that test.

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:10 am
by Cyclone
Thanks everyone for the links and sugestions. Grendal that link got me going in the direction I was hoping. Looks like I need to go to the high end professional monitors to be satisfied grrr.

Must have specs...

S-IPS/H-IPS (not sure the difference between the two but they are better then the other panel types, have great viewing angles and that is a must for photo editing)

0.26mm or smaller dot pitch. I find lcds grainy. It's been 4 years since I looked at any new lcds so maybe thats not an issuse these days but a smaller dot pitch should reduce the grainyness and be easier on the eyes?

Large gamut (high sRGB/Adobe RGB %, preferebly 100% for sRGB)

Responce time of 6 (grey-to-grey) but this doesn't matter as much to me.


I will post further thoughts after I go through 20+ links of monitors and reviews. Way too many choices. I wish there was a lcd that was good in every technical aspect but it seems you have to pick and choose what you want in a lcd or spend alot of money. I think the monitor is the most important piece of hardware, after all you're constantly staring at it all the time you're at the computer.

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:46 am
by Zantor
I have used several LCD monitors in the last few years and the graininess isn't a problem unless you get a really cheap monitor. Dot pitch of 0.26mm or narrower would give you something nice and crisp at the monitor's native resolution. I still use CRTs and they suit me fine, and I do occasional photo editing and other graphic art work.

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:29 am
by Cyclone