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Why would we want to provide China with better missile tech?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:51 am
by Will Robinson
Obama is reversing a law that corrected Clinton's scandalous and greedy sell out where he insisted, against the recommendation of his own Attny General, the CIA and the FBI, on putting the political wing of his administration in charge of releasing high tech science and hardware to the Chinese.
Clinton did it for millions of dollars from his big time democrat contributors at Loral and Hughes.

What do you think Obama's motives are?

The presidential notice alters a key provision of the 1999 Defense Authorization Act that required that the president notify Congress whether a transfer of missile and space technology to China would harm the U.S. space-launch industry or help China's missile programs.

The law was passed after a late-1990s scandal involving the U.S. companies Space Systems/Loral and Hughes Electronics Corp.

Both companies improperly shared technology with China and were fined $20 million and $32 million, respectively, by the State Department after a U.S. government investigation concluded that their know-how was used to improve China's long-range nuclear missiles.

Section 1512 of the 1999 law requires the president to certify to Congress in advance of any missile equipment or technology exports to China that the export will not harm the U.S. space-launch industry and that \"missile equipment or technology, including any indirect technical benefit that could be derived from such export, will not measurably improve the missile or space launch capabilities of the People's Republic of China.\"

from here

He's moved the authority to a branch removed from his White House so he gets plausible deniability for any backlash later when it is discovered the Commerce Department screws up, he has removed the legal responsibility for him to have to pay attention to the transactions and report their contents to Congress and he now probably thinks he can spend his way into the good graces of China the way he thinks he can spend his way into an economic recovery by basically trading nuke missile tech for whatever agreements he thinks the Chinese will honor!
Fricken naive idiot!

And that assessment is giving him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't just pulling a Clinton and doing it solely for the campaign donations he'll no doubt earn from the tech companies that he now can provide, or not provide, depending on their donations, a legal conduit by which to sell the Chinese government their high tech missile product WITHOUT any oversight by Congress or any trace to the administration!! Wow! Thanks Obama for the new kind of leadership!!!

Apparently the \"transparency\" we were promised doesn't fit his plans now that he's been elected and the details of the \"change\" that was promised really needed to be explored before the election!

Oh yea that's right the media decided it wasn't important as witnessed by two media heavyweights just days before the election nonchalantly discussing their role/failure to look into it:
Charlie Rose and Tom Brokaw (have a bucket ready because the larger implications of the Rose/Brokaw video will make any sane American want to puke)

Re: Why would we want to provide China with better missile t

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:38 am
by CUDA
Will Robinson wrote:Apparently the "transparency" we were promised doesn't fit his plans now that he's been elected and the details of the "change" that was promised really needed to be explored before the election!
The transparency ONLY applies to other nations, and how we now give them our most top secret information. hence the open door policy that was just put in place to let Russia inspect our nuke sites. it does NOT apply with-in the borders of the US of A on a Domestic front

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:12 am
by snoopy
So, I guess this means that the president can issue ITAR exceptions without supervision?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:42 pm
by woodchip
I suspect the reason \"why\" involves China loaning us ever more money to help prop up the Dems drunken spending spree they are on.

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:14 pm
by Spidey
woodchip wrote:I suspect the reason "why" involves China loaning us ever more money to help prop up the Dems drunken spending spree they are on.
Bingo!

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:39 pm
by Canuck
Guys tell you what, if China wanted to conquer North America they would just stop shipping. Imagine Wallmart and every other store running out of stock. Mix angry Wall-mart shoppers with guns and... well you get the picture.

In two weeks no spare parts for trucking or anything for that matter will be available and our entire infrastructure of shipping and transport falls apart. Eventually we'll be hunting rabbits for food and fending off the gangs from the Cities.