an internet source wrote:The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:21 pm
by CUDA
ya I saw that, makes ya wonder, doesn't it?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:47 pm
by woodchip
Sad part will be, just like after 9/11, all the pc types will come out saying how Islam is a peaceful religion and how we should not stigmatize people just because they are Muslim. Keep thinking that way as middle eastern killers build a wall of corpses around your beliefs.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:56 pm
by Nightshade
Welcome to Dar al Harb.
Dar al Harb
Dar al Harb (Arabic: دار الحرب \"house of war\") refers to areas outside Muslim rule, as opposed to Dar al Islam. The precise designations of such territories can vary widely according to the speakers idea of who is and is not a Muslim, and which governments are or are not Muslim in practice. The inhabitants of the Dar al-Harb are called harbi (Arabic: حربي), as opposed to dhimmi (second class citizens of the book - Christians and Jews) or kufr (non-believers, pagans). According to ancient law, a harbi does not even have the right to live. To enter the territory of Islam (Dar al Islam) he needs a safe-conduct pass called an aman. The term has meaning today for Islamist extremists.
Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi was quoted in As Sarq al Awast of July 19, 2003 as saying:
\"It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al-Harb are not protected.\"
Likewise, Sheikh Ali Gomaa said in an interview published in July 2003 by the Egyptian newspaper Al-Haqiqa:
\"...it is permitted to kill him, because he is a Harbi and the Harbi spreads corruption throughout the face of the earth.\"
Dar al-Harb, like Dar al Islam and similar terms, are not found in the Quran or in the Hadith which are the core basis of Islam.
woodchip wrote:Sad part will be, just like after 9/11, all the pc types will come out saying how Islam is a peaceful religion and how we should not stigmatize people just because they are Muslim. Keep thinking that way as middle eastern killers build a wall of corpses around your beliefs.
The dead shooter who was Major in the US Army lost his mind. He was crazy. He was a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed medical center. What's your solution video game message board dude? Because Christians and atheists never lose it and go on rampages - I must be "pc" to point out that obvious fact.
Your response will be a "real" Christian wouldn't do that - that's what a "real" Muslim would say about this terrible incident.
You guys have no heart... your immediate response to a murder spree that happened at 1:30pm central time today is to go for religion and culture. It's a factor but the guy lost his mind. Much like you have. Why should anyone read what you write?
A tragedy has happened and this is what you write.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:20 pm
by dissent
Report I read said he he (Hasan) had just been told he was going to be shipped out for a deployment (Iraq? A-stan?). If so, perhaps that set him off.
I think I'll wait for the data dust to settle a bit and see if teh media can start to report some actual information instead of rumors and rumors of rumors.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:11 pm
by Insurrectionist
Fact is, something flip his trigger and he's a fry short of a happy meal to do such a thing. Yes tragic indeed for the others around him.
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:03 am
by Cuda68
TheWhat wrote:
woodchip wrote:Sad part will be, just like after 9/11, all the pc types will come out saying how Islam is a peaceful religion and how we should not stigmatize people just because they are Muslim. Keep thinking that way as middle eastern killers build a wall of corpses around your beliefs.
The dead shooter who was Major in the US Army lost his mind. He was crazy. He was a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed medical center. What's your solution video game message board dude? Because Christians and atheists never lose it and go on rampages - I must be "pc" to point out that obvious fact.
Your response will be a "real" Christian wouldn't do that - that's what a "real" Muslim would say about this terrible incident.
You guys have no heart... your immediate response to a murder spree that happened at 1:30pm central time today is to go for religion and culture. It's a factor but the guy lost his mind. Much like you have. Why should anyone read what you write?
A tragedy has happened and this is what you write.
Because Muslims have been attacking and killing us openly since the early 60's, and in very large numbers are calling for our death and destruction - geeze what paranoia we have
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:28 am
by CUDA
TheWhat wrote:
woodchip wrote:Sad part will be, just like after 9/11, all the pc types will come out saying how Islam is a peaceful religion and how we should not stigmatize people just because they are Muslim. Keep thinking that way as middle eastern killers build a wall of corpses around your beliefs.
The dead shooter who was Major in the US Army lost his mind. He was crazy. He was a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed medical center. What's your solution video game message board dude? Because Christians and atheists never lose it and go on rampages - I must be "pc" to point out that obvious fact.
Your response will be a "real" Christian wouldn't do that - that's what a "real" Muslim would say about this terrible incident.
You guys have no heart... your immediate response to a murder spree that happened at 1:30pm central time today is to go for religion and culture. It's a factor but the guy lost his mind. Much like you have. Why should anyone read what you write?
A tragedy has happened and this is what you write.
whooops
Authorities search apartment of Fort Hood suspect who reportedly gave away his furniture and copies of the Koran to neighbors before massacre
Federal law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed homicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they are still trying to confirm that he was the author.
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:13 am
by SilverFJ
He might have been sympathetic to anti-NWO groups and started taking out the martial law fuel as much as he could..?
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:55 am
by Will Robinson
SilverFJ wrote:He might have been sympathetic to anti-NWO groups and started taking out the martial law fuel as much as he could..?
I hope that wasn't the case because that suggests a trend that makes this guy and Timothy McViegh the first of many who are a whole lot more dangerous and a whole lot closer to home than some long bearded zealot dodging patrols in the mountains of Pakistan!
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:57 am
by CUDA
Survivors of the rampage that killed 13 and wounded 30 said the suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, shouted \"Allahu Akbar!\" — \"God is great!\" in Arabic — before opening fire, base commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said.
its sounding more and more like it was fanatical Islam based
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:06 am
by Will Robinson
My gut tells me he was acting out his fears. I'm thinking he wasn't an Islamic fundamentalist he was playing the role of one because that is the bogeyman that they/we all fear.
He probably adopted much of the post traumatic stress he was seeing in his patients. The hopelessness of the situation became too much to bear once he got orders to deploy into the heart of it all.
I'm guessing he was bringing to a boil that which he thought was inevitable, it's that same old twisted self destructive logic we see from time to time like someone who freaks out and shoots their family and then themselves. He just put a twist on it, because of his experiences as a military psychiatrist his message was in the context of his military family instead of immediate family.
He may have been shouting 'God is great' on the outside because that put the right face on the attack but inside he was shouting 'You want to see me and my buddy's get shot up by radicals...OK lets do it right here, right now!!'
It was the ultimate protest much like the suicide bombers he seemed to focus on.
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:10 pm
by BUBBALOU
TheWhat wrote:The dead shooter who was Major in the US Army lost his mind.
Major Nidal Malik Hasan............He's not dead
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:17 pm
by CUDA
BUBBALOU wrote:
TheWhat wrote:The dead shooter who was Major in the US Army lost his mind.
Major Nidal Malik Hasan............He's not dead
RESURECTION!!!!
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:56 pm
by SilverFJ
Whether or not he had anything to do with it, there's nothing dangerous about a true patriot. These are the men who'll be taking out the black-suited gestapo who enforce martial law sooner or later.
Once they put on the storm trooper uniform and enforce the removal of my rights, THEY'RE the terrorists. I love my country and military, but be warned, the NWO is almost here. They're not even hiding it any more. People need to WAKE UP!!!
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:22 pm
by Ferno
do we really know his motivations.. or are we just speculating with almost no facts whatsoever again?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:23 pm
by SilverFJ
They WANT you to think he was an extremist. There's another shooting happening as I type, now in Orlando. The government is setting all of this stuff up. Why are they cordoning off the highways around there instead of storming the building? This is being done by design, which means it can be stopped. We're being acclimated for martial law! WAKE UP!!
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:20 pm
by TheWhat
It was reported that he was killed for many hours after the rampage... I made the mistake to "not sit back" and typed too soon. I'm not the only one.
Cuda68 wrote:Because Muslims have been attacking and killing us openly since the early 60's, and in very large numbers are calling for our death and destruction - geeze what paranoia we have
Well, I know Muslims and they are lovely people. "They" haven't been doing anything to you, they were born in the 80's in America, they are Americans. They love it here.
You get to erase all the 'good will and justice "we" Americans did to the countries' they hail from? How convenient for you. I won't do that in my brains. We are crooked.
It doesn't excuse a murderous rampage but you come off as a xenophobe, paranoia? (Kill em all! - wait that was bubbs) C'mon capt liberty! Our young country has been over this so many times before. Japanese internment camps while German prisoners walk freely in American towns?
Dude flipped his brains. It's terrible.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:21 am
by woodchip
TheWhat wrote:
woodchip wrote:Sad part will be, just like after 9/11, all the pc types will come out saying how Islam is a peaceful religion and how we should not stigmatize people just because they are Muslim. Keep thinking that way as middle eastern killers build a wall of corpses around your beliefs.
The dead shooter who was Major in the US Army lost his mind. He was crazy. He was a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed medical center. What's your solution video game message board dude? Because Christians and atheists never lose it and go on rampages - I must be "pc" to point out that obvious fact.
At the time of my post Mr I follow the news ever so closely dude, it was being reported that 2 possibly 3 gunmen were involved. Other attempted attacks by Muslims had been thwarted already, so I should of thought this incidents was carried out by christian tea baggers?
TheWhat wrote:Your response will be a "real" Christian wouldn't do that - that's what a "real" Muslim would say about this terrible incident.
Could a "real" Christian do this? Dunno. The question is would the Christian do it based on his religious beliefs. Not likely. Would a real Muslim do this? Evidence says yes. Muslim fathers are killing and maiming their children because they become too westernized and not living according to their faith. Muslims decapitate and post videos because the victims were non Muslims. Muslims fly planes into buildings and kill thousands because they know they are killing non muslims. So tell me Copsey, why should I not draw the conclusion I did when I posted it?
TheWhat wrote:You guys have no heart... your immediate response to a murder spree that happened at 1:30pm central time today is to go for religion and culture. It's a factor but the guy lost his mind. Much like you have. Why should anyone read what you write?
If you choose to live in a sanatorium of the mentally blind, that is your choice. Why should anyone care what you think?
TheWhat wrote:A tragedy has happened and this is what you write.
A tragedy did happen and we can only but mourn the the victims and send condolences to their families.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:32 am
by woodchip
Still think the shooter was not religiously motivated?
\"He had shouted the Arabic phrase Allahu akbar (God is greatest) before opening fire, witnesses said.\"
We need to stop screwing around and take Iran down also. They {muslims in general} are pushing really hard for there Holy War - lets bring it to them. You can talk about the Interim camps of WW2 and how the Japanese where treated so badly, how we make money through Capitalism and how bad we are all you want. You don't like it, leave. I am not into all this guilt crap and how we have to change to suit a religious view point or we will be killed off, and we take it and then we justify it for them so they have no responsibility what-so-ever- what cowards we have turned into as a Nation. Stupid liberals - Only time a liberal gets mad enough to fight is when some one has a different view point or its there life on the line but when some one else is being killed its there own fault or its how we behave and we should turn the other cheek. What cowardly crap this is.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:19 am
by CUDA
woodchip wrote:Still think the shooter was not religiously motivated?
"He had shouted the Arabic phrase Allahu akbar (God is greatest) before opening fire, witnesses said."
And the cherry on top of the nice sh*t that happened:
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:44 pm
by TheWhat
Cuda68 wrote:We need to stop screwing around and take Iran down also. They {muslims in general} are pushing really hard for there Holy War - lets bring it to them.
Oh, shadup. Messageboard master. Say it - you don't know a single Muslim. Not one.
You're dumb ass better get to know a few before you bang your chest and NOT BE THE GUY THAT GOES INTO COMBAT. You descent people are ★■◆●ing cowards and big talkers.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:28 pm
by SilverFJ
TheWhat wrote:You're dumb ass better get to know a few before you bang your chest and NOT BE THE GUY THAT GOES INTO COMBAT. You descent people are **** cowards and big talkers.
ROFL
Ok, I said I didn't want to insult people, but you're a freakin' moron. Get to know things about the people you insult, (i.e., Cuda), before you do so. Your foot is jammed so far down your throat right now, your colon is getting athlete's foot.
Freakin' trolls...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:35 pm
by Nightshade
I don't know how many times I've stated that I have met and dealt with muslims. They are not to be trusted simply because they are taught from birth that you are the infidel. You are not worthy of life, much less any kind of equal treatment.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:42 pm
by TheWhat
ThunderBunny wrote:I don't know how many times I've stated that I have met and dealt with muslims. They are not to be trusted simply because they are taught from birth that you are the infidel. You are not worthy of life, much less any kind of equal treatment.
You are a fake login. Come meet my friends, wait, no. You are stupid... I wouldn't want to burden them with you.
What is with you people? Where is the great Lothar I met at chilan? These people are cunts. the c word. not one of them know a muslim as a friend... and you let them type. Lothar, you clearly have no political leaning because you'd let this pile of ★■◆● idiot say awful things about entire cultures. coward.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:58 pm
by Ferno
Anyone stop and think to ask someone who was actually there or close to that event what their view on this whole thing?
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:11 pm
by SilverFJ
TheWhat wrote:Lothar, you clearly have no political leaning because you'd let this pile of ***** idiot say awful things about entire cultures. coward.
No political leaning... Sounds perfect for a moderator, now doesn't it?
As for people's statements, they're opinions. Get used to it.
You're a troll. Go away. This needs to get back on topic. My belief is that it was a staged event by the government, but since that's going nowhere I'm going to quietly excuse myself from the topic
p.s. Lothar takes good care of trolls...
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:17 pm
by Cuda68
TheWhat wrote:
Cuda68 wrote:We need to stop screwing around and take Iran down also. They {muslims in general} are pushing really hard for there Holy War - lets bring it to them.
Oh, shadup. Messageboard master. Say it - you don't know a single Muslim. Not one.
You're dumb ass better get to know a few before you bang your chest and NOT BE THE GUY THAT GOES INTO COMBAT. You descent people are **** cowards and big talkers.
Check you PM's num nutz
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:50 pm
by TheWhat
Cuda68 wrote:
TheWhat wrote:
Cuda68 wrote:We need to stop screwing around and take Iran down also. They {muslims in general} are pushing really hard for there Holy War - lets bring it to them.
Oh, shadup. Messageboard master. Say it - you don't know a single Muslim. Not one.
You're dumb ass better get to know a few before you bang your chest and NOT BE THE GUY THAT GOES INTO COMBAT. You descent people are **** cowards and big talkers.
Check you PM's num nutz
Die soon.
Hate speech.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:19 pm
by TheWhat
SilverFJ wrote:
TheWhat wrote:Lothar, you clearly have no political leaning because you'd let this pile of ***** idiot say awful things about entire cultures. coward.
No political leaning... Sounds perfect for a moderator, now doesn't it?
As for people's statements, they're opinions. Get used to it.
You're a troll. Go away. This needs to get back on topic. My belief is that it was a staged event by the government, but since that's going nowhere I'm going to quietly excuse myself from the topic
p.s. Lothar takes good care of trolls...
A troll that doesn't agree with flat out hate towards Muslims. I am a dmc meat. Thats not important.
What matters is fuckin idiots that live in the middle of no where get to bang on people that are Muslim because this is white person videogame message board. And Lothar better deal with it.
Swarmy idiot guy fj. crankhead that found god.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:21 pm
by TheWhat
lets dance. you guys do this for realz? in your brainz?
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:41 pm
by TheWhat
TheWhat wrote:lets dance. you guys do this for realz? in your brainz?
in fact didn't your meth head before you found jesus grow up in idaho and now you are all worldly nshit? shut up dude.
let me show you how much i hate your fatass.
Know nothing.
Muslims are are good people. But it aint that simple. Just like Christians - some will cut your throat. Dumbass meth head wouldn't know that because he has never dealt with people.
C'mon Lothar - you are Satan's son because of this. =)
**lol. adam, the great ambassador of peace. I'm so sick of you humans.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:00 pm
by SilverFJ
Wow.
and it's Montana.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:02 pm
by TheWhat
SilverFJ wrote:Wow.
and it's Montana.
Do they allow david bowie?
take a poll of drug users.
No one takes meth heads seriously. You gave up credibility so you could trash things out 4 years ago. No one will ever trust you.
and you think you can type about God? and murder?
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:30 am
by Lothar
TheWhat wrote:Where is the great Lothar I met at chilan? ..... you'd let this pile of ***** idiot say awful things about entire cultures. coward.
The great Lothar you meat at chilan is not a telepath, and never has been. If you PM him "omg you should close that one thread" without giving him a link, he won't know what you're talking about, as he may have never actually read the thread in question.
