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Global Scamming

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:37 pm
by Nightshade
Curbing pollution is always a good thing, but it shouldn't kill off our economy.

China and India create a substantial amount of pollution (and probably are overtaking the \"western world\" in terms of output) and don't care what anyone says. Russia never did.

Global warming, man made or otherwise may not even exist at the moment- but that is not stopping globalist scammers from trying to take our money.

Even as \"climate-gate\" makes waves throughout media and government, globalist global-warming defenders haven't given up the fight to take your money.

Climategate: Phil Jones Finally Proves Al Gore Right — The Debate Is Over

Now that Climategate ringleader Phil Jones has admitted that there has been no global warming (man-made or otherwise) since at least 1995, and that the world was warmer in medieval times than now, I only have one question. Where do the so-called global warming skeptics go to get their reputations back?

As head of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia — their data underpins most of the claims of man-made global warming — Jones’ admission should be the final nail in the coffin of the anti-carbon dioxide crusade of Al Gore, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), most green activist groups, industry lobbying groups like the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP), and President Obama.

Concepts and policies like cap and trade, carbon taxes, carbon footprints, and carbon offsets all should shortly be relegated to the same ash heap of history as eugenics, communism, Enron, and Bernie Madoff.

Secondary school students subjected to hysterical global warming propaganda — like Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth — should recover quickly, if they were even paying attention in the first place. Since global warming alarmism for America’s universities was all about the federal grant money to start with, they should have no problems switching gears as long as the money keeps flowing.

Goldman Sachs probably won’t get to profiteer from trading carbon credits. But not to worry — there’s always some new sort of financial fraud for modern Wall Streeters to engage in just around the corner. General Electric will be forced to return to Thomas Edison-like innovation rather than lobbying for revenues and profits, but that should be no problem after shareholders get rid of global-warming-loving CEO Jeff Immelt.

Yes, the world will inexorably move on from global warming to new crises, both real and imaginary. But before it does, the world should give credit where credit is due: to the global warming skeptics.

For the past 20 years, the skeptics have consistently, courageously — and most importantly, correctly — pointed out the fatal flaws in the hysterical hypothesis of man-made global warming. In the course of their efforts, they have been mocked, threatened (sometimes physically), abused, derided, cursed, characterized as loons, and likened to Holocaust deniers. One green writer for the prominent online publication Grist magazine even suggested Nuremberg-style war crimes trials for the denialists.

All this for the crime of being factually, though not politically, correct.

And I’m not referring to those skeptics-come-lately who, in the wake of Climategate, finally get it. I’m talking about those lone voices, especially during the Bush years. Few in number, they kept the flame of skepticism burning until the cavalry arrived in the form of Climategate, glaciergate, rainforestgate, and now Phil Jones’ anti-climactic climatic admission.

Had the skeptics not succeeded in preventing the U.S. from signing on to the Kyoto Protocol and to President Obama’s cap-and-trade crusade, we would all have been in for a world of hurt as misanthropic socialists — hiding behind their shields of “the environment” and “the children” — destroyed our liberties and ran our economy (further) into the ground.

Hug a skeptic. They saved your bacon.

Global warming is dead. Long live global warming — at least until it melts the 4-foot snow drifts outside my house.

Steve Milloy publishes JunkScience.com and is the author of Green Hell: How Environmentalists Plan to Control Your Life and What You Can Do to Stop Them.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategat ... epage=true

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:25 pm
by Grendel
I'm getting sick and tired of this sh|t.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:25 pm
by AlphaDoG
Yea I'd be sick and tired of it too, if the person I've been pinning all my hope and change on flip flopped.

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:49 pm
by Spidey
It’s Climate Change…Damn It!!!

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:27 pm
by snoopy
It's just too polarized. It's a good thing to take care of the planet. It's a bad thing to hate people who don't.

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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:42 pm
by AlphaDoG
Spidey wrote:It’s Climate Change…Damn It!!!
Yep my bad.

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:24 am
by Insurrectionist
Grendel wrote:I'm getting sick and tired of this sh|t.
I would too if I believed that global warming was happening but day by day more things get out that makes you question the science.

Headline Global Data Shows Earth Warming Over 150 Years http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3190 ... -150-years

Headline The Cooling World http://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf

Headline Another Ice Age? http://www.nationalcenter.org/Time-Ice- ... 974-Sm.jpg

All proving that the science wasn't settle then or now.

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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:50 am
by Floyd
Insurrectionist wrote:Headline The Cooling World http://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf

Headline Another Ice Age? http://www.nationalcenter.org/Time-Ice- ... 974-Sm.jpg
outdated by 35 years.

cooling?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:51 pm
by Nightshade
Hehe.. The global warming faithful exist even here. ;)

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:18 pm
by SilverFJ
People are getting sick of hearing it, and eventually, won't care one way or another. I think that's the direction they're trying to take it. But it's painfully obvious it's a hoax now, and where is all that money we promised to the cause? Who knows.

If I can get busted with a joint by a sheriff 12 miles outside of town in the woods and do a night in jail and pay a fine, these criminals need to answer for what they've done.

At least half of the Administration needs to do some serious time, including Obama.

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:57 pm
by Floyd
let's assume the earth was cooling - they'd probably charge us to attempt to stop it from cooling. let's assume the temperature stays at level, they'd probably find a way to charge us to attempt to maintain that state. after all, if you throw money out the window you gotta get it back somehow. the scientists wouldn't see that money though.
just a thought ;)

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:10 pm
by Insurrectionist
Floyd wrote:let's assume the earth was cooling - they'd probably charge us to attempt to stop it from cooling. let's assume the temperature stays at level, they'd probably find a way to charge us to attempt to maintain that state. after all, if you throw money out the window you gotta get it back somehow. the scientists wouldn't see that money though.
just a thought ;)
What didn't you know that the cooling at the time was cause by aerosols, sulfides and sulfates which by the way they started controlling in 1970 through regulations and the EPA now the earth is warming so now we have to regulate CO2 in the same manner so the earth will cool :roll:

150 years of records to draw conclusions from when the earth may or may not be 4.55 billion years old. Which by the way I find funny because the Universe is about twice that according to big bang believers. So if every thing came into existence during the big bang why isn't everything the same age? Oh wait thats right evolution.

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:37 pm
by Floyd
Insurrectionist wrote:So if every thing came into existence during the big bang why isn't everything the same age? Oh wait thats right evolution.
thread derail ... i suppose that someone with a degree in nuclear physics can answer that, or the respective literature.

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