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deck of cards

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:55 am
by woodchip
Last couple of days I noticed that when I drag a window across the monitor I get multiple repeat images of the window. A little googling suggest perhaps a monitor cable but not sure they were experiencing what I am. Any ideas before I go out and buy something unnecessary?

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:26 am
by Krom
We need more information: processor make and frequency, video card, memory quantity, operating system, etc.

However I will say that it is borderline impossible for that type of problem to be with the monitor or its cabling. More likely its some problem with the video driver or display settings.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:30 am
by Duper
I was gunna say. Sounds like you're running on windows default drivers.

did you go through a system restore recently? I had that happen once where a restore sent me all the way back to the fresh install because of some crash. :o

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:41 pm
by Sickone
I see it everyday on My work Laptop (company owned).

I can tell you that case it is all the BS that I.T. loads for security. This a reasonable system too.
2.5GHz Core 2 Duo with a good dedicated nvidia, but as soon as IT touched it... bam.
Same with prior laptop when they started loading some stuff like 2 years back.

I guess what I am saying is you may want to see what processes are running. You may have something running causing the issue. I can't shut the stuff down since it is a company unit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:57 pm
by woodchip
Ok a little more info:

CPU - Intel q6600 quad (2x dual core) \"Go stepping Version\" OC to 3005 MHz. Core temps 38/35/29/31 at idle

Windows XP pro

Radeon 4870 vid card. Drivers last updated 11/2009. 512 meg cache

4 gigs of Corsair Dominator memory, fan cooled DDR2

Monitor Samsung T260 1920 x 1200 resolution; refresh 60 Hz. Hardware acceleration high. Driver dated 4/2008 version 3. DPI 96

Checked via contol panel/system/device mgr and vid card drivers are at my last update. Checked heat and not running hot.

There have been game crashes and may have been a reset. Online game I play (Eve-Online) runs at 160+ fps and 100 fps+/- under large player involvement so not like system is running slow.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:01 pm
by woodchip
Oh and Hi Sickly. Hope all is well with you and family. Went through and eliminated some apps maybe have to look for more. Also did a virus and malwarebyte scan, nothing came up.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:15 pm
by fliptw
get the latest drivers from game.amd.com

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:15 pm
by Krom
Something is preventing the CPU and video driver from re-drawing the desktop quickly enough so you get the deck of cards effect when dragging a window around. Either something is out of whack with the hardware acceleration or some application has injected itself a little too deeply in and is slowing things up. I wouldn't immediately rule out a virus that does some sort of screen capture causing it, but I wouldn't look any deeper than a full system scan using a couple up to date scanners either so you probably already have that covered.

Otherwise a few brute force options like completely removing and reinstalling the video drivers would probably be worth a shot, updating to the latest version along the way probably wouldn't hurt. Permanently disabling any unnecessary background tasks can't hurt either.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:17 pm
by fliptw
you'd get the effect described when the window in question can't redraw itself fast enough.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:06 pm
by BUBBALOU
just for giggles.... what do you have running in your system tray.... any remote admin, photo or video system tray aids? kodac, picassa, pictureit, olympus.. yada, yada, yada. If so, kill one at a time until the problem subsides.

Had this issue on a clients machine making Premiere CS4 crawl. The system tray app had a screen capture driver running.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:48 am
by woodchip
Well, checked system tray and nothing obvious there. eliminated Avira anti virus proggy, updated vid drivers (and now have a problem with getting catalyst control center to work)and still same problem. Have to do some more digging later on today.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:51 am
by woodchip
Well did a bit more and looks like I might of cured it. Did 2 things:

1) Ran CCleaner a 2nd time after removing some more items. Still had the deck of cards effect but didn't reboot.

2) What the real culprit may have been is Internet Explorer 8 and the subsequent window items installed after IE 8 was installed. Used CCleaner to remove it, rebooted comp and now Deck of cards is gone.

Now all I have to do is get Catalyst control center to work.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:20 pm
by TechPro
What were the \"subsequent window items installed after IE 8\" ?

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:25 pm
by woodchip
dunno. recycle bin empty. Any way to find out? There were like 4 MS apps that were nuked.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:32 pm
by TechPro
There might be a lengthy log file somewhere ... but other than that, sounds like that would be a no. It's unfortunate that you don't remember what they were.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:15 pm
by Foil
Regarding CCC, I had a little trouble with my 4870x2 rig when I installed some recent drivers.

I ended up uninstalling everything ATI and running Driver Sweeper to be sure. Then after a reboot, I installed the newest drivers (10.3). Works like a charm now.

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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:59 pm
by Krom
Foil wrote:Regarding CCC, I had a little trouble with my 4870x2 rig when I installed some recent drivers.

I ended up uninstalling everything ATI and running Driver Sweeper to be sure. Then after a reboot, I installed the newest drivers (10.3). Works like a charm now.
x2, I don't have any ATI cards myself but I've seen this mentioned online as the fix for a problem with CCC not working properly.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:08 pm
by woodchip
Thanks Foil. Did what you suggested and worked like a charm. Only thing I can't remember is if I should leave VPU recover active or not. Set active right now.

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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:53 pm
by Foil
woodchip wrote:Thanks Foil. Did what you suggested and worked like a charm.
Good to hear. :)