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Here's a weird one I've run into only in Windows 7. Whenver I get finished with browsing, I clear the history, cookies, etc. and close the browser. Google is my home page. The next day, and only the next day, whenever I open IE8, I get a warning that the last session was improperly closed and it asks me if I want to either 'Reopen last session' or Start new session'.

It won't bring up this nag during the same day of opening and closing the browser however. When I reopened the last session and checked the history to see what was in it, what appeared was 'Google' and 'gzip.html', even though those were cleared the previous day.

I've found A LOT of gripes online about this same behavior and the only solution was to uncheck the 'Enable automatic crash recovery' box. Well, I don't want to disable this feature so, any other work arounds you guys know of?

Yes, use Firefox.

I use Windows 7 at work (along with the latest Mac OS, latest Ubuntu...) and I've not encountered that problem at all (I use both IE8 and FireFox).

What addons does your IE have?
Any toolbars?
Are you also using the Google Desktop?

I'd bet you that it's NOT your Windows 7, and NOT your IE that is the problem and is instead the problem of one of the add-ons or 3rd party products.

You don't toy with settings in your registry do you? In Windows you can make the X button, on the top corner, kill your process if it takes too long and not return a warning.
There's also a possibility that IE isn't completely closed by the time you shut down. Close IE and see if it's still running in the background.

Chrome (or several instances of it) for Linux sometimes stays running in the background even after I've closed it, and there's no Window visible. I then cast the spell, \"killall chrome\". It's satisfying.

Answering questions with an attempted answer about linux is not an answer, thanks spambot ... go forth an postcount in another forum



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Seriously ..... Use Firefox

Considering the exploits that are in IE8 that date all the way back to IE6 is enough of a reason to change!

Bubba's right. FireFox = Better choice than IE (at least, at this time... and for a long time before this)


Still, any Toolbar add-ons in your IE? Especially, you have the Google Toolbar on that? (quite possibly the most worthless Google product to date IMO) I'm betting that's where the problem with IE is. Run IE with no toolbars (Toolbars + IE = Bad Idea), 'cause IE has plenty of holes already and every toolbar you add increases them.

TechPro wrote:Bubba's right. FireFox = Better choice than IE (at least, at this time... and for a long time before this)

But, Bubbles didn't think about what's causing the problem. It should be giving the error if it's not closed by the time the system powers down, thus killing the process. I bet that's why.

Toolbars are noting more than an ERROR in life.

NO toolbar should be installed Period.../ doesn't matter if it is Firefox or IE.x. They are nothing more than statistical tracking tools and bloatware

That's why you must vigilant when installing software for the \"all ready Checked\" Option to install toolbars with free software.

Seriously ....Firefox (to fix IE click tools Internet options/advanced tab/reset button at the bottom) .....then delete all shortcuts for IE or uninstall it(better Idea).

When you install firefox, tools addins.... AdBlock Plus, Noscript(blocks all till you allow it), Download statusbar, Vista Aero (so you navigate like ie)or Personas

Goto Adobe.com get flash (yes flash)

Absolutely NO toolbars active or showing and NO Google desktop, *cough*, peice of crap or any other add-ons, unless you include Flash and Adobe PDF, which I have. Someone's post I found did note that an active toolbar would cause the problem, but I don't have any loaded, not even the antivirus one.

What I did last night as an experiment was clear the browser history, close it and then reopened it to Google then closed it without clearing history. Today, no error nag. Weird. I'm willing to bet there's something running in the background that doesn't like being terminated. One culprit may be 'Cyberlink' that seems to be constantly active in the taskmanager. Anybody ever use Autoruns.exe from Microsoft that allows you to see ALL running processes and control them? It used to be included with Windows Defender but was pulled in Win 7.

By the way, I AM going to get Firefox anyway because I'm used to it and like the ability to customize it and control what's going on. But I still have to use IE8 for Windows Update. By the way, I have Windows Update set to 'Notify', not 'Automatic'.

If you follow bubba's advice and install noscript and adblockplus you are relatively safe in Firefox. At the very least you won't be exploited or infected unless you deliberately do something stupid. Honestly noscript breaks a lot of pages till you get the whitelist populated but its worth the incredible level of protection it can offer when used properly. Adblockplus (using rick752's easylist) also is a must have browser add on, it makes the internet readable again and provides yet another layer of protection on top of it.

Also you should never install adobe PDF reader (and its browser plugins) regardless of what browser you use. There are alternative PDF readers out there you should use, and don't even bother with the browser plugins.

I've seen perfectly legit sites end up installing those fraud antivirus programs because of their third party advertising services. It hit all major browsers including Chrome, Firefox and IE6-8 because it wasn't the browser that was exploited, it was Adobe PDF reader/flash plugins. The users didn't do anything stupid like click on the infected advertisement, it infected the computer just by them loading the page with it embedded in it. People with full antivirus/firewall/security suites got nailed by it too. Norton internet security, McAfee Security suite, NOD32, Avast, Avira, all bypassed like they weren't even there. The only people that never got hit were the adblockplus and noscript users, they are literally the only effective line of defense against that type of exploit.

What about Flash? Don't you need that one to view any Flash-based videos? Also, what other PDF readers would you recommend?

you don't need to use IE8 for windows update in vista/win7, just use windows update from the control panel.

Oh, gawd! That's right! I'd noticed that earlier. Bye, bye IE8!

Haven't used noscript myself but it is more secure, I'd agree. ABP is awesome though. Returns most of the screen to useful content again.

After installing \"noscript\" go and touch(browse) every one of your most used pages and set up your noscript whitelist(right click the noscript icon at the bottom and allow each host domain) the page will refresh and load new domains in the blocked list so be careful what you allow. If you frequent AT&T hotspots you can go into tools for firefox and allow popups for 'secure.sbc.com' in the exceptions. If my wife can use noscript with ease so can you! there is also an addin for IETab2 (firefox 3.6 and above) that gives you the ability to open IE inside a tab in firefox for those non compliant IE only webpages... be careful noscript is disabled in the tab while doing so.

Yeah you need flash to view videos on sites like youtube (at least till HTML5 becomes standard) but that is the great thing about noscript; its default state is to block all flash except for the stuff you tell it you want to see. And adblockplus (with the element hiding helper) will automatically strip out the vast majority of flash based advertisements so they won't even load.

Also as bubba suggested loading all the pages you visit the most and allowing their primary domains in noscript, I have one additional recommendation: if the page works fine without allowing the domain in noscript, then don't allow the domain in noscript.

Just some info before I retire IE8. The problem does NOT occur if you delete the browser history, close it, then reopen it to the Google home page and then close it again WITHOUT clearing history. This will stop the 'restore last session' nag screen on an overnight reboot and it leaves 'Google' and 'gzip.html' in the history.

The error doesn't occur if I leave the browser on my own html home page either. Since none of you use IE8 anyway, no problem.

I use it at work ... but I haven't run into such problems so far there.

tunnelcat wrote:What about Flash? Don't you need that one to view any Flash-based videos? Also, what other PDF readers would you recommend?

FoxIt Reader for PDFs!

http://download.cnet.com/Foxit-Reader/3 ... 13206.html

Thanks AlphaDoG. FoxIt it is.

Can someone answer a question for me? Why does 'gzip.html' show up in my history under Google on the Win 7 computer, but not under Google in my IE8 history on my XP machine? I know it's a compression tool for the web, but I've never added the thing intentionally.

tunnelcat wrote:Thanks AlphaDoG.

Dogs and cats getting along, helping one another!?

Isaac wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:Thanks AlphaDoG.

Dogs and cats getting along, helping one another!?

... mass hysteria!