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woodchip wrote:I understand China has similar powers.....

Krom wrote:They don't even say what these powers will be other than some exceedingly vague "shut down stuff" part. I don't like the sound of it at all.

Isaac wrote:If everyone stopped using a certain OS *cough* the reasoning behind such proposals wouldn't hold water.

Executive Order 12919, \"the President would put the United States under total Martial Law and Military Dictatorship.\" [2]

The following EOs all fall under EO 12919: [8]

* EO 10990: \"allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.\" [9]
* EO 10995: Federal seizure of all communications media in the US.
* EO 10997: Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private.
* EO 10998: Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment.
* EO 10999: Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways.
* EO 11000: Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires.
* EO 11001: Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.
* EO 11002: Empowers the Postmaster General to register every single person in the US.
* EO 11003: Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft.
* EO 11004: Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as 'unsafe,' establish new locations for populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds.
* EO 11005: Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
* EO 11051: Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control incase of 'National Emergency').

* EO 12919 \"Apparently Allows Cabinet Heads to Make Direct Loans to Government Contractors.\" [10]

Executive Orders have two main functions: to modify how an executive branch department or agency does its job (rule change) or to modify existing law, if such authority has been granted to the President by Congress. Executive orders are not mentioned by the Constitution, but they have been around a long, long time. George Washington issued several Presidential Proclamations, which are similar to EO's (Proclamations are still issued today). EO's and Proclamations are not law, but they have the effect of statutes. A typical modern Proclamation might declare a day to be in someone's honor. Historically, they have had broader effect, such as the Emancipation Proclamation. A typical EO might instruct the government to do no business with a country we are at war with. Executive orders are subject to judicial review, and can be declared unconstitutional. Today, EO's and Proclamations are sequentially numbered. The average president issues 58 EO's a year. As of March 13, 1936, all EO's must be published in the Federal Register. The first to have been so published was #7316, by President Roosevelt.
Thanks to Richard Barr for the idea.

Flip you might want to check out E.O. 11556 Which revoked the E.O 10995. Signed by Nixon Which in turn E.O. 11556 was revoked by EO 12046 Signed by Carter.

Heretic wrote:First off we need to stand up against the abusive powers of Executive Orders for they are not Constitutional.

flip wrote:By getting Congress to agree with him. Our Government was setup exactly that way to keep any one branch form having to much say so.

Spidey" wrote:EOs have to be given within existing law…they can’t create a new law.

In a perfect world they would always be at odds with each other.

E.O. 11921 President Ford: Grants Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to take control over all production and distribution, energy sources, wages and salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions during any national emergency, and Congress cannot review the action for six months.

What is your answer to members of congress actually being threatened with this very action if they didn't sign the \"presidents\" stimulus bill? Is that not a form of extortion, being forced to choose between the lesser of 2 evils, just because an EO, made at the whim of one man, gives him that bargaining power?

Wiki wrote:An executive order in the United States is an order issued by the President, the head of the executive branch of the federal government. In other countries, similar edicts may be known as decrees, or orders-in-council. Executive orders may also be issued at the state level by a state's Governor or at the local level by the city's Mayor. U.S. Presidents have issued Executive Orders since 1789, usually to help officers and agencies of the Executive branch manage the operations within the Federal Government itself.

United States Executive Order 9066 was a United States presidential executive order signed and issued during World War II by U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt on February 19, 1942 ordering Japanese Americans to internment camps.