Not interesting for the answers on Islam and Scientology, those were entirely expected. Interesting for the sideline on Christianity.
Dang, That's a pretty serious complement coming from this source.
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:34 pm
by Nightshade
Yep. As an athiest myself, I regard Christianity as relatively benign in comparison to other cults (there are exceptions of course- but they are truly exceptions, not the rule.)
Many \"liberals\" are simply cowards and pick on people that won't fight back. Islam, on the other hand, is a rabid disease that consumes MANY of its adherents so completely, it turns them into genocidal killing machines.
I have never seen another \"religion\" based upon lying, murder and supremacism so much so as islam.
The very first lie about islam is \"peace.\" It has nothing whatsoever to do with peace.
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:18 pm
by Ferno
no, it's not that they don't want to cover scientology or islam.. it's because they can't because of the lawyers showtime has.
So it's not Penn and Teller's fault. it's the lawyers' fault. Funny how often that happens, huh?
oh and.. shut up TB. every time i read your posts i want to throw up.
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:20 pm
by Kilarin
Ferno wrote:So it's not Penn and Teller's fault. it's the lawyers' fault.
Uhm, read through it again. They don't cover Scientology because of the lawyers. They don't cover Islam because they have families.
I don't think all Islam is evil, but they certainly have a scary and insane branch, and the rest of them don't police their own nuts.
Kilarin wrote:Uhm, read through it again. They don't cover Scientology because of the lawyers. They don't cover Islam because they have families.
the blog is misleading. Watch the video to hear the actual story -- straight from penn's mouth.
always ALWAYS do your due dilligence kiliarian, because there is almost always more to a story than what a single blog has posted.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:21 pm
by Kilarin
Ferno wrote:the blog is misleading. Watch the video to hear the actual story -- straight from penn's mouth.
Ok, watched the vid. It doesn't mention Islam, it's strictly about Scientology. And there it agrees with the reason interview.
In the reason interview, we have:
reason wrote:Are there any groups you won't go after?
Penn wrote:We haven't tackled Scientology because Showtime doesn't want us to. Maybe they have deals with individual Scientologists—I'm not sure. And we haven't tackled Islam because we have families.
reason wrote:Meaning, you won’t attack Islam because you’re afraid it’ll attack back
Penn wrote:Right, and I think the worst thing you can say about a group in a free society is that you’re afraid to talk about it—I can’t think of anything more horrific.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:50 am
by Ferno
cmon kil, don't quote what the blog wrote. quote what penn says.
isn't it better to hear what the story is from the person who speaks it rather than having it filtered through a website? That's the problem with blogs like this. They take the source material and filter it through their own process before posting it. That leads to a very disingenuous article.
If anything, the one paragraph should have read: \"We haven't tackled Scientology because Showtime has big scary lawyers that will skewer us if we do. Maybe they have deals with individual Scientologists—I'm not sure. And we haven't tackled Islam because we have families.\"