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transparency?????

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:17 am
by CUDA
Under a little-noticed provision of the recently passed financial-reform legislation, the Securities and Exchange Commission no longer has to comply with virtually all requests for information releases from the public, including those filed under the Freedom of Information Act.

The law, signed last week by President Obama, exempts the SEC from disclosing records or information derived from \"surveillance, risk assessments, or other regulatory and oversight activities.\" Given that the SEC is a regulatory body, the provision covers almost every action by the agency, lawyers say. Congress and federal agencies can request information, but the public cannot.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2010 ... isclosure/
Information will not be withheld just because I say so; it will be withheld because a separate authority believes my request is well-grounded in the Constitution. Let me say it as simply as I can: transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency,\"
Barack Obama 2009
ya transparency

Re: transparency?????

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:40 am
by Will Robinson
A professional liar wrote:..."Information will not be withheld just because I say so; it will be withheld because a separate authority believes my request is well-grounded in the Constitution. Let me say it as simply as I can: transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency,"
Barack Obama 2009
That promise alone is the epitome of politician-covers-his-own-ass 101!

Let me translate:

'When I withhold information I will not man up and take responsibility for doing it, I will be sure to have someone to blame for doing so.
Let me say it as simply as I can: The promise of transparency will be broken by my teams interpretation of the constitution whenever we can get away with it...and that will be the touchstone of my occupation of the Whitehouse.'


Whenever Obama says: "As I've said before" or 'Let me say it as simply as I can" what follows is a lie. I'd love to play poker with the guy because he is easy to read.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:02 am
by woodchip
So, how is that hope and change thing working out for ya?

Palin 2012

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:05 am
by Cuda68
Have any of you read about the finance disclose act or the law he signed in concering interpol? We will be a Socialist Nation before long with no rights what so ever. The man has thrown the Constition right out the window.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:52 am
by CUDA
Cuda68 wrote:Have any of you read about the finance disclose act or the law he signed in concering interpol? We will be a Socialist Nation before long with no rights what so ever. The man has thrown the Constition right out the window.
ya posted about it here.

viewtopic.php?t=17202

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:23 am
by null0010
woodchip wrote:So, how is that hope and change thing working out for ya?

Palin 2012
looking at the pattern, palin would likely be more of the same.

promise in the campaign to end this nonsense, then promptly resume this nonsense upon entering office.

it's amusing how much people mock the "change" theme in the obama campaign, failing to notice that that is effectively the theme of every campaign of ever president for over 100 years. i think the last notable presidents to campaign on not changing from the last guy's plans were the bunch who followed Jackson's ideas after his term was over.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:21 pm
by flip
transparency of the rule of law
I fixed that for him and then I attest that that is a true statement from him. Governing power is fixing to shift from a nationalist one to one that is global and he is not being subtle or secretive about it at all.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:20 am
by Neo
woodchip wrote:Palin 2012
You can't be serious.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:34 am
by null0010
Neo wrote:
woodchip wrote:Palin 2012
You can't be serious.
do you see the avatar? :roll:

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:37 am
by woodchip
null0010 wrote:
Neo wrote:
woodchip wrote:Palin 2012
You can't be serious.
do you see the avatar? :roll:
Do you see the complete idiot we have in office now?

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:23 am
by AlphaDoG
woodchip wrote:
null0010 wrote:
Neo wrote:
woodchip wrote:Palin 2012
You can't be serious.
do you see the avatar? :roll:
Do you see the complete idiot we have in office now?

lol

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:38 am
by Neo
Image

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:07 pm
by woodchip
There are 2 types of perception. One is where you judge a person when when you actually meet them, the other is when the media steers your perception in a certain direction.

a good case in point is I use to really dislike Muhammad Ali as I thought he was a flaming ahole from what I saw on TV. Then I got a chance to see him do a public sparring exhibition at the Navy Pier in Chicago. Complete opposite from what I thought he was like. He was friendly and never a foul word. Talked with people around the ring and not a sign of his arrogant displays I saw on TV. So be careful how you \"perceive\" people.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:47 pm
by null0010
\"She's a nice woman\" and \"I disagree with her policies\" can both be held in the same mind at the same time without contradiction.

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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:23 am
by Neo
woodchip wrote:There are 2 types of perception. One is where you judge a person when when you actually meet them, the other is when the media steers your perception in a certain direction.

a good case in point is I use to really dislike Muhammad Ali as I thought he was a flaming ahole from what I saw on TV. Then I got a chance to see him do a public sparring exhibition at the Navy Pier in Chicago. Complete opposite from what I thought he was like. He was friendly and never a foul word. Talked with people around the ring and not a sign of his arrogant displays I saw on TV. So be careful how you "perceive" people.
o cool ^_^

Sounds a lot like what happened in Descent 3. Except you have me instead of Muhammad Ali (or Sarah Palin for that matter) and haterz instead of the media. :)

I'll leave the picture up here tho. :)

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:55 am
by Ferno
really...

for someone who talks a lot about perception, Neo, you lack the understanding for it.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:44 am
by Neo
foolish mortal. :P

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:56 pm
by Cuda68
There still trying to push this through!! I did some reading on this and it not only applies to donations but any electronic communication that is directed at a politician, good or bad, has money behind it or not unless it is approved by the FEC. Electronic includes the internet, phone/texting all of it. It is a very broad statement when it only uses the words electronic communication.
Freedom of speech goes buh bye.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:43 pm
by Ferno
freedom of speech disappeared when free speech zones were erected.

but nobody cared.

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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:05 pm
by null0010
Ferno wrote:freedom of speech disappeared when free speech zones were erected.

but nobody cared.
I cared. :|

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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:17 am
by Will Robinson
Ferno wrote:freedom of speech disappeared when free speech zones were erected.

but nobody cared.
Somebody check and see if he's allowed to say that here....not sure what zone we fall under...

Props to Muhammad Ali he one of my top five heroes.