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What a nightmare.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:10 pm
by Heretic
I would hate to be the network tech who would have to find a problem here.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:23 pm
by Isaac
If it's all documented properly, it might not bee that bad to work with.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:04 pm
by Grendel
It's called \"job security\"
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:12 pm
by Heretic
Isaac wrote:If it's all documented properly, it might not bee that bad to work with.
"IF"
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:00 pm
by snoopy
No, it would still be terrible to work with even if properly documented.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:56 pm
by Ryujin
There's no way that is documented.
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:04 pm
by Isaac
Heretic wrote:Isaac wrote:If it's all documented properly, it might not bee that bad to work with.
"IF"
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:42 pm
by Flatlander
That can't be good for airflow
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:13 pm
by Ferno
Grendel wrote:It's called "job security"
x2
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:01 pm
by Glowhyena
*drops his jaw*
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:05 am
by Avder
I have a degree in computer network support.
Even if there was incredible documentation with that, I would still be extremely hesitant to so much as touch that pile of spaghetti.
There are so many things wrong in that picture already, that having great documentation would hardly matter. Those cables look dense enough to restrict air flow to the equipment. They are all the exact same color. They are of varying length. There does not seem to be any thought given to an overall physical topology. I also highly doubt that each cable is given an identifier either on the jack its connected to or the connector terminating each end, which will make rewiring everything that much harder.
My solution: redesign the topology completely, send everyone home for the week if at all possible, unhook EVERYTHING, reposition all routers, switches, and patch boards to require a minimum of cabling, and then use as short of cables as possible to rewire that mess. If the cabling is still going to be complicated, use different colored cable for different run types. Build in space for a predicted five to ten years of growth.
In short, throw it all out, start from scratch, and make it look like
this.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:56 am
by AlphaDoG
That must be Microsoft's Bing.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:27 am
by Sirius
Are you sure those wires actually do anything? Maybe they're just trying to imitate a mozzarella topping...
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:09 am
by Ryujin
Sirius wrote:Are you sure those wires actually do anything? Maybe they're just trying to imitate a mozzarella topping...
Yeah, is it possible that the networking folks were really that lazy? They just add cables and never remove?
Definitely a good picture to show new networking techs what is NOT good!
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:25 am
by Heretic
Do you think the cables are picking up noise from each other? How will it affect network performance?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:34 pm
by []V[]essenjah
Wow.... the first time I saw that... I thought I was looking at a bale of hay. And yes, I agree with Avder... I was an installer for about a full year and a PC repair tech for about 2-3 years as well before I had to move. I worked a lot with wiring and I am going to start working toward a degree in networking this coming Spring so yes... I confirm that, THAT is a nightmare. I would get rid of all the wires, buy color coded wires or at least label them and bundle them up so that they make some sort of sense and organize all of the equipment underneath a LOT better.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:28 am
by Thenior
It doesn't take someone with a network degree to know a mess of a wires like that is hideous.
The last building I was at for work, we didn't have a patch panel. They just ran everything into a router (granted, it was only like 30 cables), but it was a big enough pain to track. Now we label every cable on a patch panel, and have a map of the building showing were each cable comes out.
Zip ties would do alot for that mess!
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:52 am
by snoopy
Heretic wrote:Do you think the cables are picking up noise from each other? How will it affect network performance?
I doubt it. Noise immunity is the point of twisted pairs. If they are quality cables, they may also have an overall shield. Finally, noise emitted by a cable is related to AC current running through the cable- since all of the signals are very low current, I don't think that the cables themselves emit much noise. Really, the time that you worry about noise is when you have something like a motor wire (high current, usually really spikey, too) running next to a signal cable.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:12 am
by Avder
Heretic wrote:Do you think the cables are picking up noise from each other? How will it affect network performance?
I doubt it, but the way they are wired, it wouldn't surprise me that the connectors were crimped wrong, the wires have been twisted such that the pairs no longer twist as required to self-negate interference, or they're just plain bad, cheap cables that muck everything up.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:05 am
by Thenior
That's probably the MS india server room
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:54 pm
by Lothar
I honestly don't think it's that bad. You should see the backs of the telephone switching crossbars at
this museum...
As long as you have proper documentation, processes, and test equipment, something like this isn't that bad to deal with.
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:04 pm
by Stroodles
Lothar wrote:I honestly don't think it's that bad. You should see the backs of the telephone switching crossbars at
this museum...
As long as you have proper documentation, processes, and test equipment, something like this isn't that bad to deal with.
"It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it"