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by woodchip » Sun May 02, 2004 7:09 am
A little good news for a change:
"Thomas Hamill was found south of Tikrit after he apparently escaped from his captors, US Army spokesman Brig Gen Mark Kimmitt told reporters."
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by TheCops » Sun May 02, 2004 7:19 am
man... i want to read his auto-biography.
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by woodchip » Sun May 02, 2004 8:10 am
Whats amazing is he doesn't want to go back home...he wants to get back to work. 'Course earning $1,000.00 a day driving a fuel tanker truck is a big incentive.
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by bash » Sun May 02, 2004 8:20 am
He identified himself, then led the patrol to the house where he had been held captive. The unit surrounded the house and captured two Iraqis with an automatic weapon.
Payback is a bi[spoiler][/spoiler]tch.
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by Flabby Chick » Sun May 02, 2004 9:10 am
The guy escapes and his captors stick around in the same house?? Not the brightest of chaps are they?
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by Kyouryuu » Sun May 02, 2004 10:29 am
Flabby Chick wrote: The guy escapes and his captors stick around in the same house?? Not the brightest of chaps are they?
Too bad we didn't just put them out of their misery.
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by roid » Sun May 02, 2004 10:54 am
hey now, i'm sure we're all glad they didn't put the american "outof his misery".
these guys are now POWs, as they should be.
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by woodchip » Sun May 02, 2004 1:24 pm
Ummm...not quite Roid. POW status is reserved for soldiers in a national army. The captors are just plain crimminals.
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by Birdseye » Sun May 02, 2004 2:50 pm
True wood, but there is no longer an Iraqi national army, so what are the fighters in Iraq considered?
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by bash » Sun May 02, 2004 3:44 pm
Poor sports.
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by Tyranny » Sun May 02, 2004 6:00 pm
free game, plain and simple. They're lucky we have enough reserve to even take them prisoner in the first place.
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by woodchip » Sun May 02, 2004 8:38 pm
Birdseye wrote: True wood, but there is no longer an Iraqi national army, so what are the fighters in Iraq considered?
In Fallujah a lot of them were foreign insurgents so...since they are not wearing a uniform I guess you could call them spies. Then there are the Al Sadr groupies that if they were over here we'd call them gangsta's. Shall I go on?
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by Dedman » Sun May 02, 2004 8:40 pm
Do they qualify as "enemy combatants"? If so, I hope they like Cuban food.
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by Tyranny » Mon May 03, 2004 12:42 am
wth? any enemy in combat should be considered "Enemy Combatants". What kind of question is that?
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by Lothar » Mon May 03, 2004 12:58 am
They can't be "prisoners of war" without being part of an enemy army we're at war with -- but anyone can be an "enemy combatant" if they're shooting at US troops.
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by roid » Mon May 03, 2004 7:05 am
how can you make a distinction between the rights of your own soldiers, and the rights of enemy soldiers?
these guys obviously didn't consider the USA soldier to be deserving of death. yet when the tables are turned you feel fine suggesting death for them?
what is this? your kneejerk reaction to ANY enemy?!
i'm sickened
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by Flabby Chick » Mon May 03, 2004 7:23 am
Roidi babes!!!! Before you puke, go and read what the subject is about.
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by roid » Mon May 03, 2004 7:30 am
ok FINE!!! i admit it, i'm actually sickened from spinning around in my chair.
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by Lothar » Mon May 03, 2004 5:31 pm
roid,
it's not that the guys didn't want to kill the US guy because they valued his life -- it's that they'd rather use him as a bargaining chip, because they knew we valued his life.
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by woodchip » Mon May 03, 2004 6:14 pm
Lothar, that was very profound. Did you come to that conclusion based on your own intellect or perhaps read it somewhere else? Not something I'd expect from a dry science math major. And yes this is a complement 'cause I know you came up with this all by yourself.