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What video card...?

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:50 am
by Thenior
Hello everyone,

I am completely out of the loop on video cards. Last time I was up to date, the Radeon9800 was an awesome card.

I currently run a Quadro NVS 290 at work, mostly because I do CAD stuff. Over the past year, I rarely do CAD anymore (they have me doing photoshop and illustrator work now). I just got an upgrade to Adobe CS5, and photoshop doesn't like my Quadro.

Looking to spend about $100 on a new card. Here is a deal I found, but input would be nice!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 814121353R

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:55 am
by Krom
If you are willing to put up with a mail in rebate you can snag this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121381
which should be considerably more powerful than a GT240.

Otherwise there is a new 512 MB GT240 for less after MIR here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125304

I wouldn't worry about the difference between 512 MB and 1 GB cards, in any game that actually requires 1 GB of frame buffer / texture memory none of these low end cards will be even remotely able to handle them anyway. And outside of games, practically nothing else even comes close to needing more than 512 MB.

As for beyond that, we are still waiting for some of the final trickle down parts for the low end of the latest generation from nvidia so there isn't much that is newer that fits in the $75-$100 price bracket at the moment. AMD (ATI) has some fairly attractive cards in the lower price brackets, but they are also planning on launching a new midrange series in the next month or so which will probably drive prices on older parts even lower.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:48 am
by BUBBALOU
The CS5 Issue is with all Video Cards, not just your Quadro.

The base line card Adobe recommends from Nvidia is the GeForce GTX285 and Quadro FX3800

Because other cards are to slow to respond to CS5 hardware probe before it shuts down open gl features and runs in default mode

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:22 pm
by Grendel

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:51 pm
by Thenior
Well, I bought Kroms first reccomendation - hopefully it works with that....

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:09 pm
by Krom
Thenior wrote:Well, I bought Kroms first reccomendation - hopefully it works with that....
Reading that blog post Grendel linked, if it hasn't shipped yet you might want to cancel, apparently adobe demands at least 768 MB of video RAM:
I run this trick in a GeForce GTX 260 and it worked! In an another PC with a GeForce 9800 GT didn’t work because it has 512Mb RAM and Premiere needs at least 756 Mb, pity!
Edit: here is a recert GTS250 / 1 GB for the same price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133339

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:10 pm
by Thenior
dang... it just shipped.

I guess I'll just give it to the other tech guy @ work - he asked for one a while back.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:34 am
by Thenior
Bought that one Krom listed... that should at least improve my performance.

Whats weird is when I first got it, it ran in OpenGL mode. Some of the functions were a little chunky, but after a few times (maybe an update) it forced software mode.

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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:37 am
by Thenior
Krom wrote: Reading that blog post Grendel linked, if it hasn't shipped yet you might want to cancel, apparently adobe demands at least 768 MB of video RAM:
I run this trick in a GeForce GTX 260 and it worked! In an another PC with a GeForce 9800 GT didn’t work because it has 512Mb RAM and Premiere needs at least 756 Mb, pity!
FYI, thats premiere, not photoshop. Pretty different. I never use premiere (haven't found a function that After Effects didn't do better).
Photoshop CS5 requirements wrote: 1024x768 display (1280x800 recommended) with qualified hardware-accelerated OpenGL graphics card, 16-bit color, and 256MB of VRAM

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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:51 am
by Gekko71
BUBBALOU wrote:The CS5 Issue is with all Video Cards, not just your Quadro.
X2 on that. I've got a GTX 295 and CS5 is still far slower for me than CS4 ever was. :x

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:49 am
by Thenior
Maybe I'll just downgrade to CS4. Illustrator CS5 and InDesign CS5 have some improvements, but other than some fancy UI elements, Photoshop CS5 isn't anything special (Puppet warp and content aware fill are nice too I suppose).

At least this video card will improve After Effects and other stuff I work on. If I ever do any CAD, I do some pretty primitive stuff - the 1GB GT should handle it.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:47 am
by Foil
Guys, just use the method Grendel posted about to get CS5 to work with your card.

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:46 am
by Gekko71
Foil wrote:Guys, just use the method Grendel posted about to get CS5 to work with your card.
I considered it Foil, but I decided not to for a couple of reasons, mainly due to the fact that CS5 has very little in the way of must-have functionality for my purposes - so I just stick with CS4.

CS5 also gives me the irrits to use for some reason...

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:09 am
by Thenior
dang! just found out my PSU doesn't have a 6-Pin power adapter - I have a bunch of PS work due, so had to drop another $30 bucks to have a adapter overnighted.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:31 am
by Krom
If the adapter goes from two cdrom/hdd molex power plugs be sure to plug each one in from a different wire (unless you like melting the leads from your PSU).

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:47 am
by Thenior
Krom wrote:If the adapter goes from two cdrom/hdd molex power plugs be sure to plug each one in from a different wire (unless you like melting the leads from your PSU).
I wouldn't have known that thanks!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:08 am
by Thenior
Note -

Photoshop CS5 still didn't work. The Premiere Pro CS5 hack doesn't apply to Photoshop CS5.

However, thanks to a thread on nVidia forums, I figured it out.

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/635966

One of the users provides a link to the following registry edit file:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/ ... ileID=3769

Although using this did not fix it for me (I have no idea why it would fix it for anyone), after I tweaked the REG file, I got it to work.

Open \"AllowOldGPUS_ON.reg\" in notepad, change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Adobe\\Photoshop\\11.0
to
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Adobe\\Photoshop\\12.0
Booyah, problem solved. Also note that this isn't a fix - it just tells the drivers to work anyway, even though they think they shouldn't. Could be buggy.