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Europe's media is upset that the citizens of the United States didn't want to follow through on Obama's European emulation of their leftist/socialist model.

Like Michelle Obama once mentioned in a speech she gave, \"For (not the) first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country (again.)\"

I just hope that this mid term repudiation endures and we restore some sense of sensibility to our political leaders.

Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.

Europeans React to Pummeling of Dems in Midterm Elections:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europeans- ... elections/

ThunderBunny wrote: Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history.

Evidence? And that birth rate video doesn't count for this, that just shows they're not screwing enough.

ThunderBunny wrote:Europe's media is upset that the citizens of the United States didn't want to follow through on Obama's European emulation of their leftist/socialist model. [..]

Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.

Guess you didn't actually read what you linked ? You should. If you did, I have no idea how you came to those conclusions.

Grendel wrote:Guess you didn't actually read what you linked ? You should. If you did, I have no idea how you came to those conclusions.

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Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.

AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.

Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.

null0010 wrote:

AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.

Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.

x2 on that!

null0010 wrote:

AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.

Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.

Moderates in general are getting stomped as of late because of how much extremism is being injected into American politics.

null0010 wrote:

AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.

Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.

This is one way to rationalize how they got curb stomped.

Mjolnir wrote:

null0010 wrote:

AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.

Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.

x2 on that!

Wrong.

Russ Feingold.

Ike Skelton.

John Spratt.

Jim Oberstar.

Carol Shea-Porter .


shall I go on?

According to wikipedia, Feingold is ranked 6th in the Senate for bipartisan voting. Plus he worked with McCain on that campaign finance bill.

Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.

According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him \"one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side.\"

Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.

Good ol' extremist elections.

The age of the voters really made the difference between the last 2 elections.

2008 - 65 and older, 15% of the electorate.

2010 - 65 and older, 25% of the electorate.

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2008 - 18 to 29, 18% of the electorate.

2010 - 18 to 29, 10% of the electorate.

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First time voters:

2008 - 11%

2010 - 3%

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/election ... 69398.html

It was the older more conservative voters combined with younger voter apathy towards a leaderless Obama that brought in more conservatives this time. So what does a clueless Obama do, go into KUMBAYA MODE after his \"shellacking\" by misinterpreting WHY his apathetic base stayed home this time by doing WHAT..........insisting (or maybe praying) that working with hopelessly intransigent Republicans will work this time! OBAMA IS AN IDIOT!

The age of the voters really made the difference between the last 2 elections.

Yep. The younger more uninformed and less experienced in life vs. the older and more knowledgeable.

No. The older, richer, greedier and more bigoted voters got their say this time. The younger, more tolerant, more idealistic, less rich and broke voters just decided they didn't give a damn after their chosen boy dropped the ball.

So basically they stayed home for the same reasons others went out and voted.

See you can say the same thing without the insults.

Well, there was one bright spot. Almost all the crazy Tea Party candidates LOST!

Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.

tunnelcat wrote:Well, there was one bright spot. Almost all the crazy Tea Party candidates LOST!

I would say for a firstt time foray into the political realm as a "party" they did pretty good. they control 10% of the Senate and almost the same in the House. that alone is enough of a force to influence the policies of Washington.
Not to mention they scared the living hell out of Harry Reid, that alone was worth them running for me

SENATE - 10 TOTAL

5 WON - 50% of Tea Party candidates won
PA- Pat Toomey
KY- Rand Paul
FL- Marco Rubio
WI- Ron Johnson
UT- Mike Lee

4 LOST - 40% of Tea Party candidates lost
DE- Christine O’Donnell
NV- Sharron Angle
WV- John Raese
CO- Ken Buck

1 UNDECIDED
AK- Joe Miller

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HOUSE - 130 TOTAL

40 WON - 31% of Tea Party candidates won

82 LOST - 63% of Tea Party candidates lost

8 UNDECIDED

TC wrote:Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.

We dont need to prove your wrong. because you cant prove your right. and what a ignorant statement

tc, you’re not making any sense, Obama wasn’t in this election…and most of the people who lost were…older white Christians.

At the very least Older, Wealthy & White.

tunnelcat wrote: It was the older more conservative voters combined with younger voter apathy towards a leaderless Obama that brought in more conservatives this time.

Apathy probably played a big part, I agree, but not so much directed at Obama but at government in general. In 08 a lot of younger voters were energized into believing that government could work, if only we participated. What happens so far? Government doesn't really do anything all that important, and in fact focuses on something that really should have been on the back burner. End result is that those youths energized in 08 get a hard lesson in the fact that our government is just plain disfunctional, and a vote for either party is kind of a wash because voting for either just really leads to more partisan bickering. Its not just Obama that's leaderless, its Congress that's gutless and SCOTUS that sucks the big fat multibillion dollar wangs of big business.

Government in general is disfunctional, and I think a lot of youths, who have grown up on the internet and bothered to pay any attention at all have figured this out a lot earlier than a lot of the previous generations, and it, in my estimation, leaves them with a feeling of "why bother? my vote isn't going to fix anything".

Nullbrains wrote:Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.

LOLOLOLOL It's obvious you do NOT live in Missouri!

null0010 wrote:According to wikipedia, Feingold is ranked 6th in the Senate for bipartisan voting. Plus he worked with McCain on that campaign finance bill.

Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.

According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him "one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side."

Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.

Good ol' extremist elections.

but they weren't considered "blue dogs" now, were they? Oh, and LOL at the comparison of a "populist" Democrat caucus to the Tea Party's "populism".

And I forgot to list Alan Grayson - what lipstick would you like to put on that porker?

ThunderBunny wrote:Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.

lol. now you're just making stuff up.

TC wrote: Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.

I got about four examples that can prove you wrong. and they're all older and white americans.

dissent wrote:

null0010 wrote:According to wikipedia, Feingold is ranked 6th in the Senate for bipartisan voting. Plus he worked with McCain on that campaign finance bill.

Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.

According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him "one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side."

Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.

Good ol' extremist elections.

but they weren't considered "blue dogs" now, were they? Oh, and LOL at the comparison of a "populist" Democrat caucus to the Tea Party's "populism".

And I forgot to list Alan Grayson - what lipstick would you like to put on that porker?

I never said those were "Blue Dogs," I was showing how they swung moderate.

And Grayson? He wanted to help Ron Paul audit the Federal Reserve, tried to compromise on health care with the Public Option Act, and voted to give yet more money to the Defense Department.

upthread you said -

null0010 wrote:Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.

That's what I responded to with my post.

Yeah, and the Blue Dogs are the ones who got smashed. The rest of it are typical midterm election turnovers.

Dream on, if you don't think those were unexpected upsets of incumbents.

Ferno wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.

lol. now you're just making stuff up.

TC wrote: Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.

I got about four examples that can prove you wrong. and they're all older and white americans.

Only about four examples?? S___, I can get you thousands of examples. You can find a lot of them anywhere in the U.S.

dissent wrote:Dream on, if you don't think those were unexpected upsets of incumbents.

Is this the first mid-term election you've ever paid attention to? Every time it's the people who say, "the people in power haven't fixed every problem in America yet, we have to vote them out; let's put the opposition party in power," and the people who are saying "there hasn't been enough time yet!"

Hardly. Been a registered voter since 1974.

Whenever there's major problems in the country, the party in power gets gutted come election time. In '08 the Republipoop got gutted and in '10 since the same problems were still festering, the Democraps get carved up. If the problems are still festering in '12 I have no freaking idea what will happen beyond Obama being replaced, and I have no idea if that will be by a Republipoop upstart, or a challenger from within the Democrap party who wins the endorsement because he gets people to believe Obama isn't liberal enough, or ended up compromising too much with the DnR's other head.