On the use of the word \"sheeple\"
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:31 am
Just stop. Please, I beg you.
Mjolnir wrote:
what?
Null?!!??!?!?! How did he recover!?!?????Heretic wrote:What gets me is his attempt to attribute the term to a person who was dead for 2 years
Heretic wrote:What gets me is his attempt to attribute the term to a person who was dead for 2 years before the word was ever used in printed.
Ayn Rand (1905–1982)
The term sheeple, which first appeared in the Wall Street Journal in 1984
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/buzz ... eeple.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple#Usage wrote:There is documented print usage of this word as early as 1950, in the form, "We, the Sheeple", in the Emory University Quarterly, v.6-7 1950-1951, page 64.
I looked that up, and I don't know why I connected the word with Ayn Rand, but it is what it is. Regardless, using a word like sheeple, made popular by the media and politicians, to deride the actions and beliefs made popular by the media and politicians is very silly. I am reminded of an analogy about cookware.Heretic wrote:Does not prove Ayn Rand penned the term originally.
So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
Why is it silly when it fits? The masses behave like sheep, yet they are people. Hence, Sheeple.null0010 wrote:Regardless, using a word like sheeple, made popular by the media and politicians, to deride the actions and beliefs made popular by the media and politicians is very silly. I am reminded of an analogy about cookware.
Check and mate, IMO.null0010 wrote:So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
Not much of a opinion. Seeing how they are still better the the no talent hack he is.Mjolnir wrote:Check and mate, IMO.null0010 wrote:So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
You're trying so hard to poke holes in my argument; you must know I'm right, but want desperately for the opposite to be true.Heretic wrote:Not much of a opinion. Seeing how they are still better the the no talent hack he is.Mjolnir wrote:Check and mate, IMO.null0010 wrote:So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
I thought your argument here was "Please stop using the term 'sheeple' because I personally hate that word."null0010 wrote:You're trying so hard to poke holes in my argument; you must know I'm right, but want desperately for the opposite to be true.Heretic wrote:Not much of a opinion. Seeing how they are still better the the no talent hack he is.Mjolnir wrote:Check and mate, IMO.null0010 wrote:So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
Yes, that was his argument. Now he's mad because he can't prove his statement and he's pulling out the Strawman to win against my point. What a muttonheadAvder wrote:I thought your argument here was "Please stop using the term 'sheeple' because I personally hate that word."null0010 wrote:You're trying so hard to poke holes in my argument; you must know I'm right, but want desperately for the opposite to be true.Heretic wrote:Not much of a opinion. Seeing how they are still better the the no talent hack he is.Mjolnir wrote:Check and mate, IMO.null0010 wrote:So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
know dealnull0010 wrote:Just stop. Please, I beg you.
It is still my arguement ("Please stop using the word "sheeple" because it is a silly word, here are the reasons..."). You're just mad you can't come up with a counter to my original arguement, so now you're trying to change the subject and claim I'm a "bad author." You had to use a strawman to win against my point. What a muttonhead!Heretic wrote:Yes, that was his argument. Now he's mad because he can't prove his statement and he's pulling out the Strawman to win against my point. What a muttonheadAvder wrote:I thought your argument here was "Please stop using the term 'sheeple' because I personally hate that word."null0010 wrote:You're trying so hard to poke holes in my argument; you must know I'm right, but want desperately for the opposite to be true.Heretic wrote:Not much of a opinion. Seeing how they are still better the the no talent hack he is.Mjolnir wrote:Check and mate, IMO.null0010 wrote:So do Stephanie Meyer and Christopher Paolini, does that make them good authors too?Heretic wrote:Well as a talentless hack she had more best sellers than you did not to mention more screenplays than you too.
lol so are you man.Heretic wrote:lol you're funny man.
Like C++ syntax, I believe.null0010 wrote:That's not easier, it's lazier.
Oh well, so much for Wikipedia.null0010 wrote:That's not easier, it's lazier.
You mean like "lol" "omg" "r u in 2 it" instead of writing the stuff out? Are you not also guilty of using the lazy way out with Internet slang?null0010 wrote:That's not easier, it's lazier.
You're going to just have to suck it up and get used to it then.null0010 wrote:I am quite aware of how language evolves, but I simply don't like this one. It bothers me because it's not clever or original; it is stale and overused, mostly by the very people who it is intended to describe. Can't we just use a simple metaphor and say "sheep?"