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Google makes me nervous

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:32 pm
by snoopy
I'm watching a special on them now. They scare me.

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:06 pm
by Ryujin
What special?

Re: Google makes me nervous

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:50 am
by Burlyman
snoopy wrote:I'm watching a special on them now. They scare me.
Well they should.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:54 am
by Tunnelcat
Facebook scares me more and many internet sites are now requiring a user to have a Facebook page for someone to even deal with them.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:59 pm
by Nightshade
I always said Facebook was of SATAN...

(And this coming from a guy that doesn't believe in satan.) :P

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:51 pm
by Glowhyena
Porn sites scare me out.

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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:31 pm
by snoopy
ThunderBunny wrote:I always said Facebook was of SATAN...

(And this coming from a guy that doesn't believe in satan.) :P
I use it sparingly.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:39 pm
by Skyalmian
Why shut down the internet when things like Facebook and complex algorithms for all its data are far more useful?

Goldman Sachs Invests $450 Million In Facebook At $50 Billion Valuation

Found elsewhere:
Copied & Pasted from a chat channel wrote:Basically when a person uploads a photo onto Facebook they 'tag' all the people in that photo with the peoples names. Facebook is then able to use that data to generate facial recognition algorithms, which can then be used to recognize the same people in any other photo. It doesn't matter whether we have a Facebook account or not, if someone uploads a photo with us in it, then that is all that is needed. And that is only the surface layers.

All websites that are using the "Facebook Connect" and related protocols (this includes YouTube, IMDB, TV.com and nearly all other major sites), not only log all your interactions, but they use the gathered data to create a comprehensive personality profile. In short, Facebook know their users name, location, address, phone numbers, friends, psychology, interests, browsing habits, employment history, education history, family connections and relationships, political associations, sexual orientation, physical appearance and much, much more -- including all that nitty-gritty personal crap people insist on putting on Facebook everyday.

In addition Facebook have access to all your Facebook chat logs and e-mails -- which are all also scanned and profiled using linguistic algorithms. Not only this, but the information is also made available to a wide body of people, groups and institutions. Back in the middle of the year, I was working with the Facebook protocols for my own website in order to see what they were all about -- they have an interesting deal for anyone that wants to place the Facebook protocols on their website. Basically if you added the Facebook software onto *** for example, you would be <cuts off here>

The trade-off is that you get access to all the above details from every user that visits your site. It really is an unprecedented volume of information. Facebook simply copy it all into your personal database...simple as that. And it truly is a deal with the devil. As a website owner you get all the info you could ever want about your users, and Facebook slowly become the centralized authority for the Internet as more and more web <cuts off here>

Not only that but they are creating a new social paradigm, conditioning people into accepting this as 'normal' everyday behaviour. This is why I say this level of information and mass-conditioning is way more valuable to TPTB than simply locking the Internet down.
Not all negative, though:
Copied & Pasted from a chat channel wrote:Welcome to the Intelformation Age... But seriously, it's too many people for them... They have massive amounts of information but not enough "human 'resources'" to effectively "deal with" everyone they deem a "threat"... The "weight" of it is too heavy, plus all the networking being done by countless hundreds of millions if not 1+ billion...grassroots...activism...etc... Facebook being funneled or not, it's being used to Bring Back the Light.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:58 am
by roid
OP is useless without a link

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:13 am
by roid
Facebook with it's Walled Garden is prettymuch just the AOL of our time.

i dunno if you young whippersnappers would remember the horrors.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AOLer
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... AOL%20User

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:31 am
by dwlpunk
Snoopy will you please elaborate on what \"special\" you are watching? Whats the Title of it and what medium is it on? I ask because I am also interested in the subject. I am an avid supporter of PBS and NPR content.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:52 am
by Sirius
Considering that approximately half the internet is on Facebook across all levels of technical ability, it doesn't seem to have much resemblance to AOL as a demographic...

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:55 pm
by snoopy
It was on CNBC. I don't exactly know what the title was.

With facebook and google out there, I'm going back to Usenet.

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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:27 pm
by Burlyman
ThunderBunny wrote:I always said fakebook was of SATAN...

(And this coming from a guy who doesn't believe in satan.) :P
fix'd :)

foolish m0rtalâ„¢ :P

Tha word on the street is Goldman Sachs are scum. ^_~

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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:41 pm
by Richard Cranium
roid wrote:Facebook with it's Walled Garden is prettymuch just the AOL of our time.

i dunno if you young whippersnappers would remember the horrors.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AOLer
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... AOL%20User
I was a member of AOL back when it was Apple On Line and it only ran on the Macintosh or the IIc.

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:48 am
by dwlpunk
by any chance is it \"inside the mind of google\"?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34039290/CNBC_PR ... _OF_GOOGLE

edit: also full video at http://www.hulu.com/watch/116372/cnbc-o ... -of-google

using google to find google!

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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:23 pm
by TigerRaptor
tunnelcat wrote:Facebook scares me more and many internet sites are now requiring a user to have a Facebook page for someone to even deal with them.
What kind of websites require a Facebook account?

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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:15 am
by snoopy
dwlpunk wrote:by any chance is it "inside the mind of google"?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34039290/CNBC_PR ... _OF_GOOGLE

edit: also full video at http://www.hulu.com/watch/116372/cnbc-o ... -of-google

using google to find google!
Yeah, that was it.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:58 pm
by Sarrus
Very interesting video. Google seems like a great to work.. at least in the present. What scares me though is what they could potentially turn into, and what they could end up doing with our data usage information..

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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:23 pm
by snoopy
Sarrus wrote:Google seems like a great to work.. at least in the present.
Did you notice their reasoning?

"We want them at work all of the time, without being distracted."

I like my free time, thank you very much.

It'd be a good place for someone who's single and straight out of grad school. Once you starting with the family stuff, you'd probably start looking for a less stressful place to work.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:26 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
I was a real fan of Google up until several years ago. At that time I decided that they had too much ambition, and that wasn't a good thing. A while after that I saw a speech made by the head of Google expressing very globalist thinking, from a technical point of view. That made me even more on my guard, having dealt with that issue to some degree in my own thinking as a web/application developer.

I've told people that any effective fascist-like [federal] governmental control over the USA (or the world, I suppose) was logistically impossible. Now I believe that Google is, knowingly or unknowingly, chipping away at the data management aspect of that problem. Meanwhile it appears that Obama's administration is chipping away at the legislative and personnel end.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:50 pm
by roid
i think google is awesome
and imma gonna torrent this show

weird why doesn't it have an IMDB entry? This docco is from 2009!

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:17 am
by Tunnelcat
TigerRaptorFX wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:Facebook scares me more and many internet sites are now requiring a user to have a Facebook page for someone to even deal with them.
What kind of websites require a Facebook account?
I've run into several online stores and one professional engineering site that required a Facebook account to get access to some of their features. It's coming.

And Goldman Sachs is getting around the new Wall Street regulations to get control of Facebook. Nothing's changed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-0 ... ebook.html

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:02 pm
by TigerRaptor
If any one has seen YouTube's new home page layout resonantly. Google really messed it up. I had to use Element Hiding Helper for ABP just to clean up most of the trash put up.

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:53 pm
by Blaze
recently? -.-

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:57 pm
by fliptw
blame it on the spell check.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:52 am
by TigerRaptor
Well that is a little embarrassing. Stupid me for spelling it incorrectly and not selecting the right word in spell check.

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:26 am
by KoolBear
lol a speel cheacker nazi! Gawd I lub'um. I getz all warm and fuzzy inide os meselv! ;)
Blaze wrote:recently? -.-