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Congrats Bee
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:17 pm
by CUDA
On being made a Moderator.
just dont ban me too quickly
Re: Congrats Bee
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:37 pm
by Gekko71
CUDA wrote:On being made a Moderator.
just dont ban me too quickly
X2 - well done Bee
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:48 pm
by Richard Cranium
Yes, congrats. You'll do fine.
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:03 pm
by Bet51987
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:07 pm
by CUDA
I did offer my congrats with sincerity.
Re:
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:57 pm
by Bet51987
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:30 pm
by Blaze
I thought I heard someone say she was already a moderator...
She should have been a moderator here in the first place... :)
Re:
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:35 pm
by CUDA
Bet51987 wrote:if I find you suddenly being nice to me, or stop insulting me, I'll quit being a mod.
Bee
I wouldn't think of it.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:50 pm
by roid
Re:
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:47 am
by CUDA
roid wrote:
LOL @ Censorship.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:51 am
by Avder
I think roid hit the nail on the head.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:15 pm
by Tunnelcat
Censorship is always fluid. How it gets applied depends on any single's person's definition of \"lewd\" and \"crude\". Does that mean someone else's arbitrary rules apply evenly to everyone when a particular word is used?
Have fun and congrats Bee. It's going to be a hard slog keeping all of us reigned in.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:34 pm
by CUDA
This forum has rules. if people abide by these rules then there would be no reason for a Moderator or Moderation.
Now if someone choses to violate or try to circumvent (in this case the swear filter) those rules then their post can be modified or deleted entirely. by joining this forum you consented to abide by those conditions. therefore it is not censorship because this is not an area of free speech.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:41 pm
by Tunnelcat
That's true. I was only talking about censorship in society in general. If I wanted to cuss a blue moon, I'd join the NHB forum where you could. But I don't think that's very pleasant place to discuss things and I don't get my entertainment out of blindly swearing. Getting around the parser and moderators is just a mild game of cat and mouse civility.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:48 pm
by CUDA
Sorry TC, I wasnt directing my post to you. I was directing it to the premise of Censorship on this forum in general.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:31 pm
by Bet51987
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:29 pm
by Ferno
Bet51987 wrote:Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
these are the kind of decisions that you need to make on your own.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:40 pm
by CUDA
Ferno wrote:Bet51987 wrote:Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
these are the kind of decisions that you need to make on your own.
agreed, we are all adults here, hence we should be able to find a more mature way of communication with out the use of the f-bomb every other word.
But keep in mind we are all adults here and we don't need to be treated like children and edited needlessly.
FYI if you feel someone is getting carried away with the language and you feel the need to edit. then you'll have my support, and if they dont like it, then they can do what they did the last time they didn't like it. start their own forum.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:53 pm
by null0010
Bet51987 wrote:Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
They are words. They should not be censored.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:08 pm
by CUDA
null0010 wrote:Bet51987 wrote:Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
They are words. They should not be censored.
REALLY. would you like to reconsider that?
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:38 am
by Lothar
null0010 wrote:Bet51987 wrote:Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
They are words. They should not be censored.
If you visit my grandma's house, you'll watch your language out of respect for my grandma. Why should this board be any different?
I fully support the free exchange of ideas. On very rare occasions, an idea actually can't be properly expressed without swearing. Most of the time, it can. So show us a little respect and don't bypass the swear filter without extremely good reason.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:52 am
by Avder
Bet51987 wrote:Avder wrote:I think roid hit the nail on the head.
Planet Descent, Descentbb.net and Descentbb.com, all operate with their own set of rules and I'm a member of each forum. Go to Descentbb.com, then to the PTMC Saloon and click on page 3 of the .net thread. then look at the first post from "The What".
Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
Bee
No, I do not believe that kind of language should be allowed here, however I dont think its because of the vulgarities. Vulgarities are a part of life that to be honest, will always come up at some point in life. Deal with it.
No, that kind of language should be allowed in this forum because its a flame variety of personal attack, which diminishes the possibility of actual debate.
You basically stated that the extent of your moderation will be swear filter enforcement, and that you intend to let the:
...flame wars, personal attacks, name calling, generalized spew, and any other form of disruption that goes on in the E&C to self moderate as it has in the past...
To be honest, it seems to me the very definition of a moderator is to step in when things start to get out of hand and to keep the participants from slitting eachothers throats. Granted, you are correct in the fact that a lot of the stuff in this forum seems to die out, however there are going to be times when people need to be given a time out, or a thread split because it veered way off topic. If all you are going to do is scold people because they want to drop an f-bomb, then no I do not respect your position as moderator and do not believe you are qualified to be in that position.
Lothar and Birdseye, when they were active, were generally both rather reluctant to do any actual moderating, but when the appropriate situations came up, they did moderate.
I hope you appreciate my honesty.
Re:
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:50 am
by roid
Lets actually link to what we're talking about here ok Bett?
Bet51987 wrote:Avder wrote:I think roid hit the nail on the head.
Planet Descent, Descentbb.net and Descentbb.com, all operate with their own set of rules and I'm a member of each forum. Go to Descentbb.com, then to the PTMC Saloon and click on page 3 of the .net thread. then look at the first post from "The What".
Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
Bee
Well the honest succinct truth should
always be tolerated, and that's what TheWhat clearly wrote.
So which were you offended by: "whinefest", or the "teef" hypothetical? Surely not the latter - it was a hypothetical complete with inverted commas, it would be a little silly to get offended over an "example". That would be like getting offended when you read the dictionary.
PS: can someone please link to Woodchip's "offending" post?
A few months ago i think i referred to a fictional TV show called "niggerniggerniggerniggernigger" to illustrate a point about something in an E&C thread. It made perfect sensible sense in context and no-one got offended.
Also a few posts earlier in the same thread i said a hypothetical quote of
'lardass faggot ★■◆● frosted-butt' as an example of something i would not say to someone. But to say that it's not the sort of thing i would generally say, i obviously had to say what it was. No-one got offended.
It was a thread about censorship haha, how ironic.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:00 am
by Isaac
Ok roid, but I don't actually shoot someone to show the dangers of fire arms...
On the other hand, I don't care if you cuss or not.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:04 am
by Spidey
Well…roid is her hero and mentor, so just let him lecture her in peace.
Re:
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:43 am
by Blaze
CUDA wrote:roid wrote:
LOL @ Censorship.
I never thought "being awesome" would become a swear word.
Re: Congrats Bee
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:46 pm
by Avder
Welp, I just turned off the swear filter in my user preferences, so you'll never see me bothering to circumvent it again.
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:55 am
by null0010
Lothar wrote:null0010 wrote:Bet51987 wrote:Now let me know if you feel that kind of language should be censored here or not. And, if the answer is yes, then where do I draw the line. If no, then I appreciate the honesty.
They are words. They should not be censored.
If you visit my grandma's house, you'll watch your language out of respect for my grandma. Why should this board be any different?
I fully support the free exchange of ideas. On very rare occasions, an idea actually can't be properly expressed without swearing. Most of the time, it can. So show us a little respect and don't bypass the swear filter without extremely good reason.
Bet asked for my opinion, I gave it. I never said I would be swearing or bypassing any ridiculous filter mechanisms.
Re: Congrats Bee
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:22 am
by Blaze
Fence sitter?
Re: Congrats Bee
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:53 pm
by Tunnelcat
There's times I have to watch myself. I worked in auto shops for a few years during my starving college youth days and my coworker mechanics could swear with the best of them. You could almost see the paint peel off the walls. So I unfortunately picked some of it up, because when in Rome........
Re: Congrats Bee
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:13 am
by Blaze
....disallow the Fusion Cannon like the Romans do?
Sorry, just thinking about Descent.