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Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:26 am
by callmeslick
......CUDA will acknowledge to you all that I like to post these once in a while for grins.
http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2011/ ... a-virus-2/
sounds about right.....
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:17 am
by SilverFJ
Whenever I visit friends in Missoula this comic is in the paper called the "Independent". Most of it's pretty assanine.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:31 am
by Will Robinson
Is that one of the good ones? Because I don't see how that is particularly entertaining or funny or clever or enlightening or anything else worthy of publication no matter which way the readers ideological compass points. Just contrived cynical commentary that falls flat.
Does the creator of this also write for SNL?
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:35 am
by callmeslick
SilverFJ wrote:Whenever I visit friends in Missoula this comic is in the paper called the "Independent". Most of it's pretty assanine.
yet, with perfect spelling.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:38 am
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:Is that one of the good ones? Because I don't see how that is particularly entertaining or funny or clever or enlightening or anything else worthy of publication no matter which way the readers ideological compass points. Just contrived cynical commentary that falls flat.
Does the creator of this also write for SNL?
each to their own. To my mind, funny, with a grain of truth behind the obvious exaggeration. Actually, this used to appear weekly in the Village Voice, out of NYC. Oh, and 'cynical commentary'? How, pray tell, can one look at Ryan's budget plan and not become both cynical of, and sad about, what passes for human decency within the ranks of today's GOP. Nelson Rockafeller and George Romney must be spinning in their graves, and I suspect even Barry Goldwater wouldn't waste the time pissing on Rep. Ryan were he on fire.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:41 am
by SilverFJ
I mean, I've read liberal comics that I thought were pretty funny despite my disagreeing with them, but This Modern World has never even got a giggle out of me. If there was one even close it would be this one:
http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2011/ ... -doctrine/
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:05 am
by callmeslick
and that, Silver, is called 'cherry-picking'..........I could have picked that one as your choice from a mile off.
What it shows is that the writer is willing skew either side with his humor. As for taste in humor, it clearly varies. Somewhere, there are people who find Larry the Cable Guy, Gilbert Gottfreid and Dennis Miller funny. It takes all types, as my Mother has always said......
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:08 am
by SilverFJ
Yes, I understand what you mean. The Obama ghost one is probably more of an expression of his dissapointment with his president.
And no, it didn't make me laugh, it was just true. The thing is, said ghost never really existed because it was all a "fool the public" ploy to begin with.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:10 am
by callmeslick
SilverFJ wrote:Yes, I understand what you mean. The Obama ghost one is probably more of an expression of his dissapointment with his president.
And no, it didn't make me laugh, it was just true. The thing is, said ghost never really existed because it was all a "fool the public" ploy to begin with.
you know this how?(careful here, you never know when you might be talking with someone who has actually been involved with a discussion with him, at say, Democratic fundraisers or something...
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Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:32 am
by SilverFJ
SilverFJ wrote:Yes, I understand what you mean. The Obama ghost one is probably more of an expression of his dissapointment with his president.
And no, it didn't make me laugh, it was just true. The thing is, said ghost never really existed because it was all a "fool the public" ploy to begin with.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:33 am
by Spidey
Yea, after reading several of those comics, all I can say is…great more “political satire” that falls short of the mark of finding the proper balance to be funny, and is just more propaganda, produced by political hacks.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:00 pm
by callmeslick
so, Spidey, what is your definiton of 'propaganda'? It would seem to be whatever you don't agree with.
I can accept you differing on the level of 'funny', as that is personal and subjective, but to stretch it to propaganda seems a real stretch. To use this one as an example, you don't feel that there has been a sort of strange permutation in political discourse at times in recent years? The comic artist WAY exaggerates it, but that sort of 'moving the definition' has been happening for a long time. At times in either ideological direction......
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:33 pm
by Spidey
callmeslick wrote:so, Spidey, what is your definiton of 'propaganda'? It would seem to be whatever you don't agree with.
And you know this from our long relationship.
Where did I say I didn’t agree, I said it fails the balance test. I happen to be very fond of political satire, but if it doesn’t meet the balance test it’s just political BS in the form or guise of humor.
An example of good political humor is South Park, where I assume the creators are both liberals, but honest enough to slap down both sides where it’s obvious.
You don’t know me, so don’t go making assumptions based on the very few posts you have read here, and don’t expect a schoolyard type of exchange from me…homie don’t play dat.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:33 pm
by SilverFJ
Well, it's one of those things where you have to have a certain viewpoint to think it's funny. If you think along the same lines as the artist, the exageration is the funny thing. With any viewpoint of objectivity, any political stance can be taken as propaganda.
Spidey wrote:homie don’t play dat
Word, gangsta.
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:57 pm
by callmeslick
Spidey wrote:callmeslick wrote:so, Spidey, what is your definiton of 'propaganda'? It would seem to be whatever you don't agree with.
And you know this from our long relationship.
no, which is why I said 'it would seem' as all I based that upon was your words to which I was responding.
Where did I say I didn’t agree, I said it fails the balance test. I happen to be very fond of political satire, but if it doesn’t meet the balance test it’s just political BS in the form or guise of humor.
since when, and by whose definition, is topical humor or satire supposed to meet a 'balance test'? Did Dickens meet one? Did Mort Sahl?
Re: Political Discourse in America
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:30 pm
by Spidey
It’s a personal thing.
An opinion, as there are very few “facts” to be had on an opinion board.