Kudos to, um, Sarah Palin of all people

[callmeslick]

.....odd that I'm the first one to post this observation, but, here goes. If anyone was paying attention yesterday, Sarah Palin spoke out on what she felt was wrong with the economy. She went on to describe
a capitalist system that had devolved from an ideal of hard work, ingenuity and thrift to a 'capitalist cronyism'. She was, to my mind, absolutely correct. Now, please don't misread me, I am not about to jump on the Palin for President bandwagon. She is still a fringe religious whackjob, and did utterly nothing to flesh out any path that would address her complaints, but I do have to give her credit for seeing the problem realistically(or, at least her speechwriter did). It will be interesting to see where this goes........

[Spidey]

People with true conservative values have been pointing that out, since forever.

[CUDA]

People with true conservative values have been pointing that out, since forever.

some people are just slower to catch on

[Will Robinson]

Palin and Obama both stopped attending their wacko churches.

Palin stopped years before she was ever picked to run for office because it didn't sit well with her.

Obama threw his church and pastor under the campaign bus only after his opposition found out about how weird it was and said he never heard the crazy sermons that he regularly attended over a span of 20 years.

But slick thinks Palin is the religious wacko.
I guess to be fair Obama is more of an opportunist, liar and poseur than a wacko since no one really believes he believes.

What is worse though? Someone who quits attending because it doesn't sit well with them years before running for national office? Or someone who apparently picked the church only to get some african-american street-cred and doesn't seem to have a problem with the wacko sermons and preachers until they are called out on it?

[callmeslick]

People with true conservative values have been pointing that out, since forever.

and proposing what, exactly, to address the matter? The sad part I saw, when I read the entire speech this morning, was that Palin went on to stress the usual 'solutions': less regulations(strangely, we had far less crony capitalism when tighter financial regulations were on the books), more God(like there is any relation between religiousness and morality/ethics), less taxation(rewarding the behavior she decries).
So please, Spidey, cite me the person out there who has a plan that would address a longstanding old-boy network of cronyism that tends to warp true capitalism. And, explain their ideas and how you think they would work to address the situation.

[flip]

I tell you what I fear the most. The fact that at the moment I believe no one has any idea of what to do and this new wonderful global economy is going to become completely unmanageable. These idiots in Washington are at such a loss to a solution, that they publicly announce it isn't their problem. I wonder why Nelson Mandela was able to accomplish all that he did. Imperfect as he was in his personal life, every public decision smacked of godliness and time and time again that kind of action sees prosperity. I'm not talking about any of these wide-eyed's either. I'm talking about serious, somber, good for all mankind kind of wisdom that seems to be entirely absent. The kind of wisdom that will incur abuse just to accomplish that which is good.

[Spidey]

As I said before…seeing a problem, and offering a solution are two different things.

I personally can’t see anything short of a revolution, considering the power and influence these people have. And since they control most of government…

I don’t know…maybe voting in a bunch of religious wackos…

[callmeslick]

wink duly noted and appreciated.

[flip]

I personally can’t see anything short of a revolution, considering the power and influence these people have. And since they control most of government…

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A revolution from what? The only problem I see right now is we are on the threshold of what could be disaster or a good firm step forward. Problem is even those that are supposed to be the most educated and able, resort to name calling and drawing lines in the sand. It's ridiculous to me to even watch it and I can only think they ARE friggin idiots or downright liars. Still, I don't see revolt as the only solution as I don't think these people are so much evil as they are self-serving pricks that lack real vision. There's hope if that's the case, but only if I'm right about my beliefs. Otherwise, we're on our own go grab your pitchforks

[woodchip]

I personally can’t see anything short of a revolution, considering the power and influence these people have. And since they control most of government…

There is a revolution and the Tea Party leads the charge.

[Spidey]

Do you think if Palin was elected president, she wouldn’t fill the cabinet with her friends and supporters?


(that seemed to be the solution she was offering) (implied)

[woodchip]

Not talking about Palin. Perry and Bachman both espouse solidarity to the tea party ideals also.

[callmeslick]

Not talking about Palin. Perry and Bachman both espouse solidarity to the tea party ideals also.

and neither has the first clue of how to govern a diverse nation. Further, both have benefitted mightily from cronyism, both politically and financially. Great freaking leadership.

[Duper]

..and neither has the first clue of how to govern a diverse nation. ...

Slick, give an example of how this works. I'm not being snide. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm curious for your opinion. This, indeed, being a diverse nation, you can't please nearly half the people half the time. Good grief.. look at this board! So, seriously, what might you think that would look like.

[woodchip]

Not talking about Palin. Perry and Bachman both espouse solidarity to the tea party ideals also.

and neither has the first clue of how to govern a diverse nation. Further, both have benefitted mightily from cronyism, both politically and financially. Great freaking leadership.

AH, I see what you are doing. The only contender who does have presidential experience is Obama so we should just re-elect him. Right? And Obama is just a peach of guy who hasn't benefited from cronyism in a like manner? Man, your political operative mode is in full swing. So far the only one I see who does not have a clue is Obama and...of course yourself

[Top Gun]

Okay, could we rephrase that to "Perry and Bachmann are both batshit insane" and leave things at that?

[Will Robinson]

Not talking about Palin. Perry and Bachman both espouse solidarity to the tea party ideals also.

and neither has the first clue of how to govern a diverse nation. Further, both have benefitted mightily from cronyism, both politically and financially. Great freaking leadership.

How can you have any credibility criticizing a politician's use/benefit from cronyism when you support those who do the same? It seems to me, if you are going to be objective, you need to remove cronyism from your checklist. You surrendered the right to "care" about that.

[Tunnelcat]

Not talking about Palin. Perry and Bachman both espouse solidarity to the tea party ideals also.

The Party of Wackos. I'm not against conservatives, I'm against conservative (or liberal) wackos. All three of these people are espousing ideals that about 12% of the people of this nation hold. That's not the "majority", and certainly not even "half" the people of this nation!

Besides, the tea party is even less popular in this country than either Muslims OR Atheists.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/surv ... 20531.html

But I will grant Palin kudos for her Capitalist Cronyism remark. She's right on that count. It's just that she's an unqualified moron who couldn't even see fit to finish her full term as governor, so I don't see how she'd have the stamina or toughness to oust the Oligarchs as our president.

[callmeslick]

AH, I see what you are doing.

no, you clearly don't. And, it isn't the first time you've demonstrated it.

The only contender who does have presidential experience is Obama so we should just re-elect him. Right?

no, I am merely saying that the GOP is appealing largely to a small segment of the population and their plans leave the rest hanging. For instance, Romney and a couple others understand the complexity of the population. Now, let them address it with plans aimed at helping ALL of the nation.