DescentBB

In London, and shows its true face:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... bassy.html

These extremists do not scare me TB. First they are far removed and second, I know a bunch of dumbass rednecks.

I can't decide who's worse. These guys, or TB for posting this picture when he did.

Last updated at 3:08 AM on 12th September 2011

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They showed up yesterday (Sunday) on 9/11 to do this.

ITT TB treats the views of a few nutjobs as possessing widespread relevance. Again.

Also, try asking someone who lives in Britain about the Daily Mail's respectability. It might take them a while to stop laughing.

Also, try asking someone who lives in Britain about the Daily Mail's respectability.

And yet Jon Stewart on Comedy Central also points out real news stories in a comedy show. It doesn't change the fact that this event happened.

Top Gun wrote:ITT TB treats the views of a few nutjobs as possessing widespread relevance. Again....

Do you honestly believe that radical islam is best described as being manned by "a few nutjobs"?

I think that would be like Jackie Kennedy saying Oh, it's just a flesh wound. Comb your hair and lets get on to lunch you crybaby!

omg...

You guys still respond to this joker? Propaganda messageboard bot. The same crap for 10 years? Telling you what "the true face of Islam" is? Why are you an authority on the subject, dood? Who appointed you? I live in Minneapolis, with like the highest concentration of Somalis in all of the good ole USA. Some of which I count as my friends, beautiful thoughtful people, good people. I know them more than some dumbass Thunderbunny on a videogame messageboard. One of my representatives is the first muslim elected to congress in history. I've met him, I don't agree with some of his views but he is a good and thoughtful man. Don't tell me the true face of anything foo.

TheWhat wrote:You guys still respond to this joker? Propaganda messageboard bot. The same crap for 10 years? Telling you what "the true face of Islam" is? Why are you an authority on the subject, dood? Who appointed you? I live in Minneapolis, with like the highest concentration of Somalis in all of the good ole USA. Some of which I count as my friends, beautiful thoughtful people, good people. I know them more than some dumbass Thunderbunny on a videogame messageboard. One of my representatives is the first muslim elected to congress in history. I've met him, I don't agree with some of his views but he is a good and thoughtful man. Don't tell me the true face of anything foo.

And you assume they would tell some anglo christian/atheist/jewish cubicle dweller their true thoughts?

woodchip wrote:And you assume they would tell some anglo christian/atheist/jewish cubicle dweller their true thoughts?

Ok. This is not a conversation. Why would they bother engaging me at all, let alone having lunch multiple times, brainwizard? You fools think you are affecting the world with this crap you type. You're not. You haven't changed mine.

TheWhat wrote:

woodchip wrote:And you assume they would tell some anglo christian/atheist/jewish cubicle dweller their true thoughts?

Ok. This is not a conversation. Why would they bother engaging me at all, let alone having lunch multiple times, brainwizard? You fools think you are affecting the world with this crap you type. You're not. You haven't changed mine.

With all due respect, considering all the anti Muslim rhetoric floating around, why should anyone of the Muslim faith tell you what they really think. Try asking your "friends" what they would do if they considered their daughter too westernized and "slutty". Ask them if they think it is right and proper to beat their wives if they disobey them. Watch their eyes and see if they give you a lying answer they know you want to hear or if they tell you what they really think. Ask them if they think Sharia law should at least be partially accepted into American law. You strike me as a savvy type so tell us what you find out.

Will Robinson wrote:

Top Gun wrote:ITT TB treats the views of a few nutjobs as possessing widespread relevance. Again....

Do you honestly believe that radical islam is best described as being manned by "a few nutjobs"?

I, for one, do.......the percentage of radicals as a proportion of the whole Islamic populace is minute, and growing ever smaller, mainly due to lack of any positive outcome.

My mommy told me a “few” means three.

That’s how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.

Will Robinson wrote:

Top Gun wrote:ITT TB treats the views of a few nutjobs as possessing widespread relevance. Again....

Do you honestly believe that radical islam is best described as being manned by "a few nutjobs"?

I think that this crowd was just a few nutjobs, which it was. And as a whole, radical Islamic fundamentalists comprise a small minority of everyone who professes that faith.

woodchip wrote:With all due respect, considering all the anti Muslim rhetoric floating around, why should anyone of the Muslim faith tell you what they really think. Try asking your "friends" what they would do if they considered their daughter too westernized and "slutty". Ask them if they think it is right and proper to beat their wives if they disobey them. Watch their eyes and see if they give you a lying answer they know you want to hear or if they tell you what they really think. Ask them if they think Sharia law should at least be partially accepted into American law. You strike me as a savvy type so tell us what you find out.

Woooooow. This is below pathetic.

Spidey wrote:My mommy told me a “few” means three.

That’s how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.

that's one definition.

callmeslick wrote:.. ...the percentage of radicals as a proportion of the whole Islamic populace is minute, and growing ever smaller, mainly due to lack of any positive outcome.

Well setting aside the definition of "a few" and my understanding that it is a number lesser by magnitudes than the number of radical Muslims regardless of the groups total number....

Why is it that "a few" relative to the whole is insignificant when we are talking about nutjobs that have killed thousands of unsuspecting innocent citizens on a single day...a feat they haven't given up duplicating in spite of your assertion that outcomes have put them off from their goals...

And yet a few nutjobs at a TeaParty rally, an even smaller number by any measure, who have killed no one, mutilated no young women, attached suicide bombs to no ones family member, blown up no one at a bus stop or cafe or asleep in their beds, etc. etc....none of that... but lo and behold they did dare to ask the President to show some proof of citizenship (Oh the carnage Oh the humanity!) that simple non-violent act gets people like you foaming at the mouth with hateful rhetoric about the group as a whole and you even extend your diatribe to include anyone who you suspect would ultimately vote for the same candidate the nutjobs seem to favor?

Seems like a very partisan application of ratio's and alarmist reaction.
Just a thought...

Top Gun wrote:

woodchip wrote:With all due respect, considering all the anti Muslim rhetoric floating around, why should anyone of the Muslim faith tell you what they really think. Try asking your "friends" what they would do if they considered their daughter too westernized and "slutty". Ask them if they think it is right and proper to beat their wives if they disobey them. Watch their eyes and see if they give you a lying answer they know you want to hear or if they tell you what they really think. Ask them if they think Sharia law should at least be partially accepted into American law. You strike me as a savvy type so tell us what you find out.

Woooooow. This is below pathetic.

Sorry to hear you think the world has nothing but pink ponies and fairies that dance in the moonlight.

callmeslick wrote:

Will Robinson wrote:

Top Gun wrote:ITT TB treats the views of a few nutjobs as possessing widespread relevance. Again....

Do you honestly believe that radical islam is best described as being manned by "a few nutjobs"?

I, for one, do.......the percentage of radicals as a proportion of the whole Islamic populace is minute, and growing ever smaller, mainly due to lack of any positive outcome.

If the populace is growing smaller it's because the leaders are getting popped by predator drones. That aside, you of all people Slick, should know a vocal minority can affect outcomes. I'd have you look at Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban and the Muslim Brotherhood and then tell us the radicals are growing ever smaller.

woodchip wrote:Sorry to hear you think the world has nothing but pink ponies and fairies that dance in the moonlight.

And I'm sorry that you're espoused views of people who practice Islam that are nothing short of racist.

Top Gun wrote:

woodchip wrote:Sorry to hear you think the world has nothing but pink ponies and fairies that dance in the moonlight.

And I'm sorry that you're espoused views of people who practice Islam that are nothing short of racist.

I was also accused of being racist by someone on this board because I was critical of Obama back when he was running for office. The accusation sounded as idiotic then as yours does now. You do know that the Islam faith has nothing to do with race?

nothing short of racist.

And with what evidence do you make this accusation?

When was islam a race?

ITT people nitpick the use of a word for an associated concept (would you rather I invented "faithist"?) instead of examining the actual subject at hand.

Bigot is the word you are looking for.

Lol, I love the DBB. I say "KILL EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT THEM OUT". LOL , that's only half true

Spidey wrote:Bigot is the word you are looking for.

okay fine let's use that word since some people are apparently incapable of discussing the topic unless the verbiage is crystal-clear

The Koran is a fierce religion in it's text. Let me go ahead and say 'christians' have been pretty fierce over the ages too, but as I've pointed out mant times before, the text is not, they were just liars. Point is, the bible itself teaches love, compasssion and forgiveness all the way to your sworn enemy and tells you if you do not do good to them or forgive them, then you yourself cannot be forgiven. A huge contrast from Islamic text, which they are commanded to subdue and convert at all costs.

OK here's my problems with conservative muslims. What happens in turmoil? What happens if we go into a great depression, or the masses start starving. Or any number of catastrophic events that could happen. When the pressure reallys gets put on, how moderate will they stay? To be totally objective here I must admit i think this about everyone. At the point of great adversity, the true nature of all things will be shown.

flip wrote:OK here's my problems with conservative muslims. What happens in turmoil? What happens if we go into a great depression, or the masses start starving. Or any number of catastrophic events that could happen. When the pressure reallys gets put on, how moderate will they stay? To be totally objective here I must admit i think this about everyone. At the point of great adversity, the true nature of all things will be shown.

so, at the start of this string of words, you have 'problems' with conservative Muslims, and by the end, you admit you feel the same way about everyone. Not the most consistent set of logic, there........

Well, let me explain further. I don't think muslims are any different than any other human being on the planet. They, as any other group with common beliefs, will unify based on those beliefs in tenuous times. It's those basic beliefs of forceful advancement of their religions that I fear. That if things got haywire for a few, they could pose a serious threat in numbers. I feel the same way about skinheads, white supremists, black supremists.... all of them mostly unyeilding.

flip wrote:The Koran is a fierce religion in it's text. Let me go ahead and say 'christians' have been pretty fierce over the ages too, but as I've pointed out mant times before, the text is not, they were just liars. Point is, the bible itself teaches love, compasssion and forgiveness all the way to your sworn enemy and tells you if you do not do good to them or forgive them, then you yourself cannot be forgiven. A huge contrast from Islamic text, which they are commanded to subdue and convert at all costs.

The Bible, particularly the Old Testament, isn't exactly all sunshine and roses either; it's just that you generally don't hear those passages during your average Sunday service. There's a whole section in one of the Pentateuch books (Deuteronomy, I think) about the circumstances in which adulterers can be stoned, but I haven't seen too many people suggesting that all Jews or Christians believe this. I tend to put far more stock in how people practice their faith than in every single word in their holy book of choice...but then again, I think looking at religious texts in a completely-literal sense is a very dangerous and misguided affair.

Honestly, those were the times and I imagine people were a lot more hardcore than they are now.God may have looked at some of these cultures that he had destroyed in the same way we feel justified when we eradicate "terrorists". Just saying, but to the point at hand. An argument could be made as to how utterly destructive just one adulterous affair could have been back then in such a small community. It leads to all kinds of ★■◆●, suspicion, murder any bad thing you can think of. Just because so and so slept with his brothers or friends wife. It would be especially destructive in a small close-nit community. I get your point though, as after much work and preparation The Father made a way, but even still, there are gonna be people who kill and do terrible things in his NAME. I'd especially hate to be one of them. Of course all this assumes a living God.