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Posted: **Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:15 pm**

No...wait.

Running for Their Lives

Christian Copts flee their homeland...

Historically, non-Muslims whose lands were seized by the jihad had three choices: conversion, dhimmitude, or death. Today, however, they have a fourth option largely unavailable to their forbears: quit their lands of origin—emigrate—the latest testimony to the nature of Islam.

A recent report indicates that unprecedented numbers of Copts, Egypt's indigenous Christian population, are emigrating from their homeland in response to the so-called "Arab spring"

More evidence of the tolerance exhibited by muslims when 'freed' from their former autocratic, yet 'secular' rulers...

The report goes on to list a number of attacks on Copts and churches—including the killing of Coptic youth in Moqattam, the Imbaba and other church attacks—adding "Salafist clerics, who gained political influence after the January 25 Revolution, have become emboldened, calling Copts Dhimmis who have to pay the jizya (tax paid by non-Muslims to the state) because they are not first class citizens and can never enjoy full citizenship rights, or obtain sensitive posts."

http://www.meforum.org/3054/running-for-their-lives

Posted: **Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:04 pm**

Posted: **Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:19 pm**

And so Ferno decides to ignore the plight of the Copts.

Posted: **Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:40 pm**

ThunderBunny wrote:And so Ferno decides to ignore the plight of the Copts.

Kind of like ... ignoring the plight of Palestine.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:23 am**

Maybe he's just ignoring the blight of TB link-and-runs.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:09 am**

null0010 wrote:
ThunderBunny wrote:And so Ferno decides to ignore the plight of the Copts.
Kind of like ... ignoring the plight of Palestine.

Hey! Maybe the euroweenies will decide those Christians are "troublesome people" and go and take the land from some under armed group and call it Christian Land so they can send all their Christians there to live. Put it right beside their last project like that which is now called Israel. Someone call the King of Jordan and let him know his time is up, we need his land...and when the Jordanians complain the euroweenies can just blame the Christians for taking the Jordanians land like they do with the Jews in Israel...

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:07 am**

Will Robinson wrote:
null0010 wrote:
ThunderBunny wrote:And so Ferno decides to ignore the plight of the Copts.
Kind of like ... ignoring the plight of Palestine.
Hey! Maybe the euroweenies will decide those Christians are "troublesome people" and go and take the land from some under armed group and call it Christian Land so they can send all their Christians there to live. Put it right beside their last project like that which is now called Israel. Someone call the King of Jordan and let him know his time is up, we need his land...and when the Jordanians complain the euroweenies can just blame the Christians for taking the Jordanians land like they do with the Jews in Israel...

That's a damn good idea!

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:33 am**

That land was not given to the jews, it was reclaimed by them.

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Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:39 pm**

flip wrote:That land was not given to the jews, it was reclaimed by them.
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you're joking, right? Are you that ignorant of history? That land was given to them by the Europeans that controlled it, acceeding to the pressure from Zionist terrorists(the first modern terrorist group....who can fault all the imitators, it worked for them, right?).

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:56 pm**

I think flip is pointing just a little bit further back into history, Slick

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:12 pm**

Lol, yeah ya Jackass

I got one question for you Slick. Whose was it 2000 years ago and whose it now? LOL
Here's a timeline with pictures.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+I ... istory.htm

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:43 pm**

Top Gun wrote:Maybe he's just ignoring the blight of TB link-and-runs.

bing! we have a winner!

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:45 pm**

flip wrote:Lol, yeah ya Jackass I got one question for you Slick. Whose was it 2000 years ago and whose it now? LOL

Incontestable logic. I guess we'd better get back to giving the entire United States back to the Indian tribes.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:54 pm**

null0010 wrote:
flip wrote:Lol, yeah ya Jackass I got one question for you Slick. Whose was it 2000 years ago and whose it now? LOL
Incontestable logic. I guess we'd better get back to giving the entire United States back to the Indian tribes.

No, but had they a right to the land (they gave it away or sold it, largely, I believe), and had managed to take it back, I think the situation would be closer.

Off-topic, I had someone make a very interesting comment the other day about Indians. They said that before the white men came the Indians would kill other tribes and and take their goods and land, but when the white man did it it somehow became unconscionable down through the years.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:23 am**

Incontestable logic. How's this. Name another culture that can name their ancestor down to the first man and the piece of land he occupied. Then ponder about how this guy in 17th century BC, goes around and tells everybody that The Lord God is ONE and this God has given him this land for him and his ancestors. Then watch them lose that land because of famine, only 2 come back some 400 years later to resettle that same land. Only this time with a fully functional government. Then watch that people lose their land several times over the ages, only to be sitting on it again this very day. Possession is 9/10's the law, what are are arguing about anyways?

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:03 am**

The land the Palestinian people are sitting on is theirs. I believe Israel has tried to concede that numerous times since 1948.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:13 am**

null0010 wrote:
flip wrote:Lol, yeah ya Jackass I got one question for you Slick. Whose was it 2000 years ago and whose it now? LOL
Incontestable logic. I guess we'd better get back to giving the entire United States back to the Indian tribes.

But the indians have won back their land. Ever see how much they are raking in off of casino's and how they buy their land back.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:55 am**

woodchip wrote:
null0010 wrote:
flip wrote:Lol, yeah ya Jackass I got one question for you Slick. Whose was it 2000 years ago and whose it now? LOL
Incontestable logic. I guess we'd better get back to giving the entire United States back to the Indian tribes.
But the indians have won back their land. Ever see how much they are raking in off of casino's and how they buy their land back.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:23 pm**

null0010 wrote:
flip wrote:Lol, yeah ya Jackass I got one question for you Slick. Whose was it 2000 years ago and whose it now? LOL
Incontestable logic. I guess we'd better get back to giving the entire United States back to the Indian tribes.

thank you, for pointing out the complete idiocy of the rebuttal.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:27 pm**

flip wrote:Incontestable logic. How's this. Name another culture that can name their ancestor down to the first man and the piece of land he occupied. Then ponder about how this guy in 17th century BC, goes around and tells everybody that The Lord God is ONE and this God has given him this land for him and his ancestors. Then watch them lose that land because of famine, only 2 come back some 400 years later to resettle that same land. Only this time with a fully functional government. Then watch that people lose their land several times over the ages, only to be sitting on it again this very day. Possession is 9/10's the law, what are are arguing about anyways?

I think we're arguing about removing, wholesale, the residents of that land. Residents who had built farms and homes on that land, and giving them squat in return. I think were talking about grabbing all the available potable water sources and running roughshod over the civil rights of everyone outside a very narrow religious group(including occupying people's homes without any compensation or warning, mass jailings and other deprivations). I think we're arguing that the folks so uprooted and mistreated might have a right to be pissed off, as would be the neighboring countries to whom they were dumped.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:59 pm**

No, I think we're talking about a displaced people that NOBODY wanted when the lines were drawn most recently. I think we're talking about the eventual inclusion of the Palestinian people. I think we're talking about everytime Israel made a goodwill and benevolent gesture towards the Palestines, it was returned with an attack to keep the disruption going, which in turn just creates more and more animosity between the 2. The Palestinians would probably have already assimilated into the Jewish culture if not for the constant aggravation caused by radical group members.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:50 pm**

I think it's funny how nobody really gave a ★■◆● about that part of the middle east until the Israeli's came in and turned it into an agricultural area. then all of the sudden it's worth something.

if you think it's causing problems now just wait until Oil is discovered on the land

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:13 pm**

well cuda, over the years (and centuries) the territory we call isreal and surrounding areas has been one of the most fought over territories, for various reasons.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:16 pm**

Hehe, the problem is right now. The Dome of the Rock and the Temple Mount is where the lines are meeting. Funny thing about that shrine. It is believed by the muslims to be the place where Abraham was told by God to sacrifice his son Isaac. The inscription on the Dome of the Rock seems to be aimed at discrediting the deity of Jesus.

S In the name of God, the Merciful the Compassionate. There is no god but God. He is One. He has
no associate. Unto Him belongeth sovereignity and unto Him belongeth praise. He quickeneth and He giveth death; and He has
Power over all things. Muhammad is the servant of God and His Messenger.
SE Lo! God and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet.
O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation. The blessing of God be on him and peace be
on him, and may God have mercy. O People of the Book! Do not exaggerate in your religion
E nor utter aught concerning God save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of
Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit
from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not 'Three' - Cease! (it is)
NE better for you! - God is only One God. Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is
in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And God is
sufficient as Defender. The Messiah will never scorn to be a
N servant unto God, nor will the favoured angels. Whoso scorneth
His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him.
Oh God, bless Your Messenger and Your servant Jesus
NW son of Mary. Peace be on him the day he was born, and the day he dies,
and the day he shall be raised alive! Such was Jesus, son of Mary, (this is) a statement of
the truth concerning which they doubt. It befitteth not (the Majesty of) God that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him!
W When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
Lo! God is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. God (Himself) is witness that there is no God
save Him. And the angels and the men of learning (too are witness). Maintaining His creation in justice, there is no God save Him,
SW the Almighty, the Wise. Lo! religion with God (is) Islam. Those who (formerly) received the Book
differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso
disbelieveth the revelations of God (will find that) lo! God is swift at reckoning!

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:10 pm**

Is it God who is swift at reckoning, or just the psychotic son of a ★■◆● with a towel on his head? Only time and a few well-placed .40 cal rounds will tell!

Jesus said that he was the way the truth and the life, and that no one comes to the Father but through him, and Islam says that he was merely a messenger. Do we believe the "messenger" or what the turbans say about the messenger?

The people of the time were not confused about who Jesus claimed to be. They killed him for it.

Posted: **Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:45 pm**

Well the fight is over territory. That land has great significance to everyone involved and just as the inscription on the Dome states, they only differ later.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:00 am**

Until one of these alleged supreme beings comes out of the closet and identifies itself to the people at large and tells them all what it is he wants it is probably best to leave what some guy thinks his preferred alleged supreme being said out of the process....and that goes for the guys with the towels on the head as well as the guys with the funny hats.

I can't prove god so I can't condone law made to please god. I can go along with intervention by outsiders to stop a war in the pursuit of saving lives but in the case of the middle east you can separate the factions in an attempt to make peace but since they use god as a permission slip to start the foodfight all over again you really can't cause peace, you can only cause an occupation.

Maybe it's time the world stood back and said Are You Ready To RUUMMMBBBBBLLLLEEEEE?? 1, 2, 3, GO!
Then we can just recognize the winner.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:35 am**

Will Robinson wrote:Until one of these alleged supreme beings comes out of the closet and identifies itself to the people at large and tells them all what it is he wants it is probably best to leave what some guy thinks his preferred alleged supreme being said out of the process....and that goes for the guys with the towels on the head as well as the guys with the funny hats.

Good to see after so many years you can still make me giggle, Will. How are you, sunshine? I couldn't get in on my old account, so had to make a new one..if there are powers that be, perusing the forum...could you drop me a line with my old details please!

Seems like there's still oodles of CNN and BBC quotes knocking around when it comes to Israel! Most of you are so ignorant, it pains me to read your opinions, though i don't blame you considering the information that is at your fingertips. Some of you , however, are extremely informed, which warms the cockles of my heart!

Flabby is back.....i wish i could play Descent though!!!!!

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:22 am**

Glad to see you back Flabby

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:27 pm**

Hi Flabby! You know when you disappear for so long it's hard to fight off the thought that something bad happened to you over there. Good to see you're still around. Are you still living the 'farm life' or have you become a city dweller?

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:07 pm**

(sorry to hijack the thread)

Yes, still a farmer , Will. Harvesting dates at the moment, after a good season with Mangos and Lychee's. Avocado's next month, and bananas after that. I still love waking up to the sun over the kinnerret with Muslims, Christians and , at the moment a few Swedish volunteers, which throws all religions into a hormonal loop....

My daughter goes into the army in december, ill tell you if im happy then!

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:41 pm**

Flabby is back.....i wish i could play Descent though!!!!!

What's stopping you? We still play most every night

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:51 pm**

Flabby Chicky wrote:Harvesting dates at the moment

"Have a date." "...what?" "It's a date. You eat 'em!"

Good to see you Flabby.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:57 pm**

FC! Welcome back.

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