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So in honor of today being Martin Luther King day I have to ask you. If Dr King was not assassinated, would the country hold him with the same reverence they do now? Would there be a statue of him with a incorrect quote on it? Or would a living Reverend King be irrelevant as a person whose racial equality ideas are old news considering we have a black president.?

He was no doubt a good man that took the weight of the world on his shoulders and his life on the line.

woodchip wrote:So in honor of today being Martin Luther King day I have to ask you. If Dr King was not assassinated, would the country hold him with the same reverence they do now? Would there be a statue of him with a incorrect quote on it? Or would a living Reverend King be irrelevant as a person whose racial equality ideas are old news considering we have a black president.?

Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, but to answer your question IMO no.

Assassination will usually make martyrs out of ordinary people.

tunnelcat wrote:Assassination will usually make martyrs out of ordinary people.

agreed


OMG that's twice now!!!!! /me looks around for signs of the apocalypse

Man this is weird. /me too

Glad I could be of service.

Lennon was a hack. Look at him.

SilverFJ wrote:Lennon was a hack. Look at him.

Yep. Since he's been murdered, he's on the music pedestal.

Look at J.F.K. too. He was a known womanizer that almost tainted the Presidency with the Marilyn Monroe affair. But since he was assassinated, he's now considered a great statesman who could do no wrong.

...and Kurt Cobain. While him and his band wrote some kickass tunes, it was his untimely death that gave him God-fame.

Bruce Lee, but he WAS a god

SilverFJ wrote:...and Kurt Cobain. While him and his band wrote some kickass tunes, it was his untimely death that gave him God-fame.

I'm sorry classifying a suicide as untimely is a misnomer. He pick the time and the place.

Unless you're suggesting that the people who commit it are in their right minds at that moment, suicide is always untimely.

Chuck Norris could kick all their asses

Top Gun wrote:Unless you're suggesting that the people who commit it are in their right minds at that moment, suicide is always untimely.

The state of their mind is irrelevant--it is an act of will nonetheless. I'm with Heretic, that doesn't sound accurate.

...the state of their mind is everything. Someone experiencing suicidal thoughts is literally not in their right mind...their brain is compromising the basic instinct of self-preservation. To suggest otherwise is absurd.

But I didn't suggest otherwise, I said it was irrelevant.

Top Gun wrote:...the state of their mind is everything. Someone experiencing suicidal thoughts is literally not in their right mind...their brain is compromising the basic instinct of self-preservation. To suggest otherwise is absurd.

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Heretic wrote:

SilverFJ wrote:...and Kurt Cobain. While him and his band wrote some kickass tunes, it was his untimely death that gave him God-fame.

I'm sorry classifying a suicide as untimely is a misnomer. He pick the time and the place.

Oh whatever, Love killed him.

Top Gun wrote:Unless you're suggesting that the people who commit it are in their right minds at that moment, suicide is always untimely.

I made no such suggestion but most suicides are planned.

Does planning it make it any less untimely?

Killing yourself does not make you a martyr, allowing others to kill you does. Why are we discussing suicide?

all I wanted to know from this thread was:
1. Why did Woodchip feel he 'had' to ask the question.
2. In what way did he view the question as any sort of 'honor' to Dr. King, or 'in honor' of the holiday for his memory.

sort of came off sounding like a cheap excuse for some white-boy whining, so it was amusing to watch it turn into a discourse
on suicide.

That's how we roll.

Well, slick, I said no, he wouldn't have achieved such status, and then gave a couple of examples as to my reasoning as to how my hypothesis could be correct. lol

woodchip wrote:So in honor of today being Martin Luther King day I have to ask you. If Dr King was not assassinated, would the country hold him with the same reverence they do now? Would there be a statue of him with a incorrect quote on it? Or would a living Reverend King be irrelevant as a person whose racial equality ideas are old news considering we have a black president.?

I saw this episode of The Boondocks.