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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!

And spinning, spinning towards freedom!

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Foil, you won't have that option come November.

woodchip wrote:Foil, you won't have that option come November.

sure he does.....around 55% of the electorate does so every election.

And those ignorant 55% are saying we don't care who gets elected...until their non-choice bites them real hard in the pocket book.

woodchip wrote:And those ignorant 55% are saying we don't care who gets elected...until their non-choice bites them real hard in the pocket book.

very true, although I suspect we differ on who is messing with the pocketbooks of most of the electorate.

Sorry, "Ron Paul" or "Neither" ain't up there. I just checked the results.

I got on board with the "a McCain would be better than an Obama" last cycle. 4 years has given me a different perspective. I am not voting for someone I do not fully support. A vote for third-party or independent may look like a vote for the end-winner, if they wouldn't have been my 2nd choice, but its still not a vote for part of the problem, and ultimately if more people start thinking this way it could change America for the better. Don't settle in 2012, I say.

Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. I'm not going to throw away my vote by voting for either of the typical two party candidates.

meh

a few days ago i voted in my local state house-of-reps (iirc) elections. (not American)
i'll tell you my preferences for the lulz (i'll translate the party names to some kinda universally understood standard):
1 - Socialist
2 - Green
3 - a new Quasi-Crazy agrarian grassroots party (Social conservativism, Agrarian Socialism, Christian Socialism, Protectionism), i'm a bit nervous about this - but we do need more FARMER power in government.
4 - Labour (center left, Social democracy, Democratic socialism) (MAJOR PARTY, possibly USAdemocrat equiv)
5 - Center right (liberal conservatism, conservative liberalism, New Right) (MAJOR PARTY, possibly USArepub equiv)
6 - Christian nationalist crazy fascists (far right) (possibly USArepublican equiv)

yep
for reference. (The Liberal Party is what i've called Center-Right)
http://www.politicalcompass.org/aus2007
http://www.politicalcompass.org/aus2010

I don't vote green #1 coz in my opinion nuclear-energy and genetic modification of crops are necessary, but the Greens are totally (and blindly if you ask me) against that.
I mean do the Greens want to desperately avoid global catastrophic climate change or not?! I'm apparently more desperate to avoid it than they are.
The new "quasi-crazy agrarian grassroots party" makes me nervous coz it's rather "get off my land" conservative, and they HATE the greens (i don't). But farmers are getting the short end of the stick lately, they have it hard and they need a lot of help. If you ask me their hatred of the Greens is totally rediculous (likely based more on hating "those damned hippies" than anything else) because the Greens have the strongest agricultural interests of all the parties and want to drastically empower farmers! They should (and could) be the best of bedfellows, but nope, coz of the embedded hatred old-conservatives have for the left. LE SIGH
I guess i'm being more about practicality and less about ideology. I mean - i was seriously considering voting for Center-right coz they are the strongest PRO-nuclear party (it would be the equiv of me voting for the USA repuiblicans, and yeah i want nuclear energy THAT MUCH that i was considering that vote on this basis alone), but in the end i guess i didn't eh.
And hell, even the Christian crazy parties are slightly alluring to me because of their ties with farmers, but i'd rather avoid their fascist "★■◆● everyone who isn't straight/male/white/christian/boring" ways thankyouverymuch.

It's hard to juggle social progressivism with agricultural empowerment. Why must farmers hate hippies so much! I love you both why can't you just get along Why can't you all just get together under the socialist flag like you were ment to all along! ★■◆●ing proletariat, they're like cats you just can't herd em.
It's hard and no-body understands

I would so prefer if we talked about this kinda stuff instead of the MY PARTY YOUR PARTY bull★■◆● that normally passes for political debate and ideological discussion in this forum. LE SIGH

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

wow that's QUITE a shift in Obama's policies to the right since he's taken office.

But anyway, i thought i'd post it since it compares Romney with Obama. Pretty close, both very far right.

It's not Obama's disapproval ratings that will stop him from being reelected, it's Romney's.

http://atlanticsentinel.com/2012/03/wit ... ic-defeat/

All of those reptilican candidates are dumber than bush and almost as dumb as the people who voted him in for two terms (but Palin is as dumb as they are). Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich are excluded from that statement, but Newt Gingrich is pure evil.

Burlyman wrote:All of those reptilican candidates are dumber than bush and almost as dumb as the people who voted him in for two terms (but Palin is as dumb as they are). Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich are excluded from that statement, but Newt Gingrich is pure evil.

that comment made as much sense as a Joe Biden speech. NONE

Afraid I agree with Burlyman. All the present Republicans can be labeled as either a wacko religious nutcase, a corporate flip flopping unprincipled thief, a serial adulterer who's a moral hypocrite AND liar or someone with ideas just too far out in right field for most people's tastes. A recent CBS poll has 58% of all Republicans disapproving of all the present candidates too.

By the way, Biden rarely makes sense.

tunnelcat wrote:Afraid I agree with Burlyman. All the present Republicans can be labeled as either a wacko religious nutcase

Like Obama and his spiritual mentor Rev Wright

tunnelcat wrote:, a corporate flip flopping unprincipled thief,

Like Obama hangen with Tony Resko ?

tunnelcat wrote:a serial hypocrite AND liar or someone with ideas just too far out in "LEFT" field for most people's tastes.

Like Obama and algae and inflating our tires will cure our gasoline woes

tunnelcat wrote:A recent CBS poll has 58% of all Republicans disapproving of all the present candidates too.

Same 58% will still vote anyone but Obama

woodchip wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:Afraid I agree with Burlyman. All the present Republicans can be labeled as either a wacko religious nutcase

Like Obama and his spiritual mentor Rev Wright

We already have Obama, and so far, he's not kissed up to Rev. Wright. Besides, quite a few Southern Republicans think Obama is a Muslim anyway.

woodchip wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:, a corporate flip flopping unprincipled thief,

Like Obama hangen with Tony Resko ?

Obama's a skilled Chicago politician, crooked as they come, so I agree with you there.

woodchip wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:a serial hypocrite AND liar or someone with ideas just too far out in "LEFT" field for most people's tastes.

Like Obama and algae and inflating our tires will cure our gasoline woes

Trying to help with a scarce resource in not a flaw. It's trying to find ways to slow our consumption of oil and prepare us for the future, not just rely on that tired old drill baby drill song.

woodchip wrote:

tunnelcat wrote:A recent CBS poll has 58% of all Republicans disapproving of all the present candidates too.

Same 58% will still vote anyone but Obama

They were Republicans who were polled, not independents. The independents are who'll decide the winner next November, and it will be Obama unless they find a Republican they can stomach.