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E&C New name?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:10 pm
by Alter-Fox
I liek. We keep.
I reverse the e's in keep. And in reverse.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:40 pm
by Isaac
"What makes me mad and what scares Thunderbunny"

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:45 pm
by roid
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∃ <--- What if this was not only back-to-front
But also upside down?

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:55 pm
by Avder
About ★■◆●ing time that dump got its name changed.

I heartily approve of the new name, even tho I'm still not gonna post there.

Still waiting for something.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:27 am
by Isaac
"Pedantry dumping ground"

or

"PDG"

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:53 pm
by Sirius
Yeah, I'm definitely a fan.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:44 pm
by flip
Could have just as easily been called the naive and willfully blind too ;)

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:00 pm
by Isaac
"Tea Party vs Hippies"

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:23 pm
by Tunnelcat
"Nutcases vs Trolls"

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:40 pm
by Ferno
guys?

just to let you know, I was the one that pitched that title.

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Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:07 am
by Krom
Sorry, weekend's over. Back to normal. :P

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:26 am
by Alter-Fox
And I learned some interesting theories about political debates in psychology last year. I kind of like them. Liberals and Conservatives literally can't understand the other side's point of view, due to two entirely different ideas of morality (though they are the same on two levels).

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:44 am
by Avder
Krom wrote:Sorry, weekend's over. Back to normal. :P
Booooooooooo

Theres nothing ethical about that cesspool.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:43 pm
by Isaac
Maybe the title could revolve around a list of strings, all of which are lines from The Big Lebowski.

"You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me."

"That rug really tied the room together."

"What the ****, has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the **** are you talking about?"

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:10 pm
by Tunnelcat
Krom wrote:Sorry, weekend's over. Back to normal. :P
I wondered when the adults would take charge again. :lol:

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:54 pm
by Isaac
Adults? where? Quick, hide!

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:47 pm
by roid
Alter-Fox wrote:And I learned some interesting theories about political debates in psychology last year. I kind of like them. Liberals and Conservatives literally can't understand the other side's point of view, due to two entirely different ideas of morality (though they are the same on two levels).
This is literally what i try (ineffectively) to steer every E&C thread i participate in into.
It's the only thing that matters, as without this mutual understanding - all converse is effectively pointless.

Things like this, are what we should be talking all about. It is what is important.
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/v ... ght-world/

On the DBB when it becomes clear that no-one else is interested in reaching any kindof mutual understanding, and we're all wasting our time - i tend to go missing for a while.
Then i occasionally come back and delusionally pretend things have changed (hahahaha), until the delusion can no longer be sustained.
Then rinse and repeat.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:42 pm
by Sirius
roid wrote:It's the only thing that matters, as without this mutual understanding - all converse is effectively pointless.
If that stopped anyone, discussion on most of the internet (youtube, news sites especially) basically wouldn't exist.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:04 am
by Alter-Fox
And would that be a bad thing?

Anyway, what roid said is the same reason I was absent from here (save the actual gameplay sections) for a few years, especially being uncomfortable around some people (Thorne, Spidey...) after getting on the wrong side of them in E&C. Then I realized that taking the measure of a person from political debates will always, inevitably, result in bad judgements -- because you're judging the debate, not the person. So I decided to avoid E&C so that I could see the people as people, not as participants in an ugly debate.

In layman's terms, these people are still nice and perfectly friendly, it's just very hard to see that when you're on the other side of a highly political debate.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:16 am
by Foil
Interesting, the dialogue in here is getting E&C-ish. :wink:

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:56 am
by Sirius
It really wouldn't, actually.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:23 pm
by Tunnelcat
roid wrote:On the DBB when it becomes clear that no-one else is interested in reaching any kindof mutual understanding, and we're all wasting our time - i tend to go missing for a while.
Then i occasionally come back and delusionally pretend things have changed (hahahaha), until the delusion can no longer be sustained.
Then rinse and repeat.
When the time comes that everyone agrees on everything, the boredom will putrefy our brains and only the Google bot will be trolling the forums. Unless the Google bot becomes sentient, then the arguing will start all over again, with itself! :wink:

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:56 pm
by roid
not everything.
just things.
just things enough to convince eachother that it's worth chatting at all.
i hope this isn't too esoteric, but for me it's about exploring the commonalities, so we may more fully understand our differences (and vice versa too, i suppose).

Break things down into constituent parts, simplify, search for patterns, follow those leads, do it collectively - in parallel, then pool the resulting collective insight, and try to form a cohesive broadly-agreed-on narrative. Ultimately just a part of a greater search for truth and the nature thereof.

As far as i can tell most just couldn't give a ★■◆● about any of that ★■◆●, and they're here for something else, something that i find alien.
Hey we're all different. i just wish "an insatiable sense of curiosity, or a lack thereof" wasn't one of those differences.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:24 pm
by Spidey
Wow, I have become the boogeyman…

I’m willing to bet just about anything that Alter-Fox doesn’t know the first thing about me.

Oh yea, he just admitted that. But I still seem to be everyones boogeyman.

But, the name callers get all of the respect…go figure.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:33 am
by Pandora
roid wrote:On the DBB when it becomes clear that no-one else is interested in reaching any kindof mutual understanding, and we're all wasting our time - i tend to go missing for a while.
Then i occasionally come back and delusionally pretend things have changed (hahahaha), until the delusion can no longer be sustained.
Then rinse and repeat.
oh wow, same here.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:24 am
by Alter-Fox
Maybe I should rephrase what I said. :P
I realized that people like Thorne and Spidey are perfectly nice and friendly people, it's just really hard to see that in the middle of highly political debates, especially when you're on the other side.

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:55 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
:mrgreen:

How about just one more rephrase? Try to work the word "formidable" in there somewhere. :P

Re: E&C New name?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:09 am
by Alter-Fox
Formidable.

Happy? :P If you want it to make sense, read the other post :D.