DescentBB

I'm no party or ideological drone when it comes to pointing out morons.

This idiot happens to be a republican:

(CNN) – U.S. Rep. Todd Akin, who won Missouri's GOP Senate primary earlier this month and will face incumbent Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill in November's general election, said Sunday that he misspoke when he claimed "legitimate rape" rarely resulted in pregnancy.

Answering a question about whether or not he thought abortion should be legal in the case of rape, Akin explained his opposition by citing unnamed bodily responses he said prevented pregnancy.

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," Akin said of rape-induced pregnancy in an interview with KTVI. A clip of the interview was posted online by the liberal super PAC American Bridge.

"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin continued. He did not provide an explanation for what constituted "legitimate rape."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... ?hpt=hp_t1

It's really too bad he happened to be opposing a sitting democrat this fall. Now it's a sure thing that democrat will stay in her seat and continue to oppose real reform in the senate- though this guy really doesn't deserve to run for dogcatcher with the idiocy that he displayed here.

P.S. - I just wish democrats denounced the stupidity of congressmen and politicians on their side that spout equally stupid and sometimes disgusting and indefensible garbage. (ie- Maxine Waters, Joe Biden or Sheila Jackson Lee.)

The guy obviously has a Biden complex.

While I find the whole thing distasteful, this is also very interesting and goes towards some of our recent conversations.

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"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin continued. He did not provide an explanation for what constituted "legitimate rape."

woodchip wrote:The guy obviously has a Biden complex.

and if I were him that's exactly what I would say when questioned by the press. Whoops I had a momentary Bidenism

it was a stupid comment on his part, and I don't not what he was trying to say. what ever it was it wasn't smart

hilarious how some of you take a really,really ignorant remark and use it for some idiotic ideological circle-jerk. Perhaps a discussion like the following could have broken out, were you actually willing to think in terms of political realities, instead of blind loyalties. I wish to exempt TB on the OP from this criticism, as it was made clear in that post that partisanship shouldn't rule out disgust at such stupidity. And, no, nothing, I mean NOTHING, that Joe Biden has ever said rises(or sinks) to this level. Nothing.
*** Akin it worse: Missouri Senate GOP nominee Todd Akin’s remarks on rape yesterday not only could endanger the Republicans’ chances in that particular race as well as their chances of taking back the Senate in the fall, they also could further damage the GOP’s brand with women. In an interview with a Missouri TV station, Akin explained his opposition to abortion, even in instances of rape. “First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said, per NBCNews.com’s Mike O’Brien. “But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.” His Democratic opponent, incumbent (and vulnerable) Sen. Claire McCaskill pounced: "I think frankly, like most women, when we heard the statement, it was, ‘Are you kidding?’ It was a stunner, just jaw dropping and hard to comprehend." Akin, a House Republican, later released a statement saying he had misspoken. “In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year.”


*** Reemphasizing the gender gap: After the GOP presidential primary season and after social issues jumped into the spotlight earlier this year -- the trans-vaginal ultrasound legislation in Virginia, the dispute over the health-care law’s requirement that religious-affiliated schools and hospitals offer free contraception, Rush Limbaugh calling Sandra Fluke a “slut” -- the Republican Party found itself facing a significant gender gap. According to last month’s NBC/WSJ poll, President Obama was leading Mitt Romney by 15 points among registered female voters, 54%-39%. In addition, the GOP’s fav/unfav with women in the poll was 32%/46% (versus 46%/35% for the Democratic Party). So there’s a reason why the Romney campaign acted so quickly to distance itself from Akin’s remarks. "Gov. Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," spokesman Andrea Saul said in a statement last night. (However, Ryan personally opposes all abortions -- even in cases of rape -- except to save the mother’s life.) And all of this comes as the Obama campaign has been targeting female voters in Colorado and Northern Virginia on abortion and women’s issues. By the way, Romney and Ryan have a joint interview with WMUR today, so what they say about Akin could drive this story and actions by the GOP in the next 12 hours.

: Focusing on that Missouri Senate contest, it’s worth paying attention to see if national Republicans -- in the next 24 hours -- try to force Akin to bow out from the race. On the one hand, what Akin said is incredibly toxic, especially when facing a female opponent. On the other hand, Missouri is still a conservative state. But a source with ties to Akin’s political operation tells First Read that the GOP congressman most likely won’t quit the contest, saying Akin believes this race is “providential” and even if Akin was ready to get out, his wife would never let him quit. The person with knowledge of Akin’s political operation adds: “She makes him seem like the reasonable one.” If you take away Missouri from the GOP’s potential win column, they have a MUCH MORE difficult path to taking back the Senate. How are Akin’s remarks playing in the Show Me State? Here’s the headline from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: “Akin’s rape comment threatens to alter U.S. Senate race.” And here is the Kansas City Star: “Senate candidate Todd Akin’s remark on rape stirs anger.”

how the rest of the civilized part of the nation views it(from Politico):

Figured the leftists would hold a party over this. So Biden 'never sunk to this level'? Really Slick?

It's true then. Slick is a drone.

While Joe Biden does say dumb things, I'm not quite sure this is in the same realm of speech. Biden tends to make dumb comments when he goes off message and tries to make it work...usually it doesn't. This guy was explaining why he is against abortion even in the cases of rape--that being that the female body can shut down a pregnancy if the rape is indeed "legitimate". He was asked a question and he responded in a calm, clear manner.

This is what the guy believes. I'm curious what "doctors" he spoke to so he could come to this conclusion. I can't imagine anyone with an M.D. would have given him this kind of crap.

As a full disclaimer, I consider myself pro-life, but holy ★■◆● I don't think it's possible for someone to make a dumber statement on this topic. A blanket insult to rape victims is really gonna do wonders for the perception of parts of the movement as misogynistic. And on top of that, where the hell did this guy learn basic biology? Sesame Street?

ThunderBunny wrote:Figured the leftists would hold a party over this. So Biden 'never sunk to this level'? Really Slick?

It's true then. Slick is a drone.

Slick is a friend of Joe Biden.....we've known each other for over 36 years.

callmeslick wrote:
: Focusing on that Missouri Senate contest, it’s worth paying attention to see if national Republicans -- in the next 24 hours -- try to force Akin to bow out from the race.

Hannity has:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... h_him.html

Ann Coulter:
In response to Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin's bizarre comments about abortion and rape, conservative columnist Ann Coulter is calling on Akin to resign for the good of his country and the pro-life cause:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ann ... 50298.html

Scott Brown:
BOSTON (CBS) – Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown says Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin of Missouri should drop out of his race because of a comment he made about rape.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/08/20/b ... e-comment/

Now where are all the national Democrats calling for Flip Lip Biden to be dropped as VP for his race baiting, "Y'all back in chains" comment? While Akin's comment was stupid it was not directed at any group of people. Biden OTOH, claimed in essence all Republicans were looking to do was enslave black people. I'll let the good members of this board decide which statements were the more evil.

Oh, the women of this country are more than a little pissed off at an insensitive moron like Akin. The Republican Party seems chock full of of these types of uninformed misogynists. I guess it takes a real bird brain like him to screw the Republicans out of a sure win with another "macaca" moment, especially since Akin is running against a woman Democrat. Kinda puts the spotlight on the Romney/Ryan ticket and their personhood stances too. Are the Republicans trying to lose the women's vote on purpose?

woody, you'd better hope than Biden stays on the ticket. He's the Democrat's tried and true "macaca" mouth that might just help out Romney with his own Akin moment. As nice of a guy as Biden might be personally, I would prefer that the Dems get someone else as veep.

Oh, don't get me wrong TC, I want The Gaffer to stay on as much as the next conservative. I'm waiting to see how big a fool he will be in a debate with Ryan. Of course if the debate moderators are died in the wool Obama lovers then you can bet your bippy that the questions will have nothing to do with Obamacare or the economy.

woodchip wrote:Oh, don't get me wrong TC, I want The Gaffer to stay on as much as the next conservative. I'm waiting to see how big a fool he will be in a debate with Ryan. Of course if the debate moderators are died in the wool Obama lovers then you can bet your bippy that the questions will have nothing to do with Obamacare or the economy.

you DO realize that Biden's 'chains' remark was directed at all working people, not one particular race, right?

Again, when Biden goes off the cuff he makes these dumb comments. He makes them often, I'm not sure if he thinks he's a comedian or something but he needs a better internal filter. Akin's response was calm, cool, and collected. He didn't say it in passing nor did he say it as an addendum to something else. I'd still like to know what doctors told him that.

CobGobbler wrote:Again, when Biden goes off the cuff he makes these dumb comments. He makes them often, I'm not sure if he thinks he's a comedian or something but he needs a better internal filter. Akin's response was calm, cool, and collected. He didn't say it in passing nor did he say it as an addendum to something else. I'd still like to know what doctors told him that.

what's funny about Biden is that what he is usually guilty of is making politically incorrect remarks, with a grain of truth to them. In other words, he can be brutally honest. Worth noting is that virtually NO ONE in Delaware, republican, democrat or independant ever seems to get riled up by his style. They know him to be honest, decent and above all, smart as hell. Further, and more to the point for his current job, he is similarly well-regarded in the Senate, and that serves the President well at times.

Back to the original topic(which clearly WASN'T Joe Biden), Cob is exactly right. This clown Akin knew exactly what he was saying. Despite his claim to the contrary, it wasn't 'off the cuff', it was his actual belief. Further, a goodly number of GOP politicians over the past decade or so have made similar claims about the unlikelyhood of rape causing pregnancy. My wife observed tonight that it took very little time for the media to determine the actual numbers, which stand in the thousands over recent years.......

callmeslick wrote:

woodchip wrote:Oh, don't get me wrong TC, I want The Gaffer to stay on as much as the next conservative. I'm waiting to see how big a fool he will be in a debate with Ryan. Of course if the debate moderators are died in the wool Obama lovers then you can bet your bippy that the questions will have nothing to do with Obamacare or the economy.

you DO realize that Biden's 'chains' remark was directed at all working people, not one particular race, right?

His remark was directed at the audience he was speaking to, which was African American. Stop reading apologist leftist talking point blogs. You're as bad as Soledad O'brien

Haven't read one freaking blog on the matter, Woody. He was speaking to a mixed-race audience in Virginia, I beleive.
Further, why are you ducking the actual topic of this thread, Woody? A little uncomfortable about how this is playing out for the GOP? Because, really THAT is the topic. I don't see this remark making ALL that much difference in the Missouri race, but just adds to what is becoming a debacle for the Republicans among Independent women voters.......

I believe Slick, I pointed out the conservatives who asked for Akin to step down. This is a lot like the Trent Lott statement about Strom Thurman. Republicans ask for their own to step down when something egregious is said (tho in Trent's case it was a stretch to equate his laudatory statements as racially charged ) yet we have yet to see the Democrats and their support team in the mainstream press ask for a race baiter like Biden to step down.

because what Biden said wasn't insensitive nor downright bogus?

callmeslick wrote:because what Biden said wasn't insensitive nor downright bogus?

Ok. How is this not a double standard or the tiniest bit hypocritical?

SLICK = DRONE

callmeslick wrote:you DO realize that Biden's 'chains' remark was directed at all working people, not one particular race, right?

Not to knock Biden, but he clearly made a double entendre. Whether he intended to or not, I can't say. However, I picked up it immediately and so did the opposition.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ndard.html



But me thinks Giuliani may have a vendetta against Biden, so he doesn't count. Biden did say that whenever Giuliani spoke, all that ever came out of his mouth was "a noun, a verb and 9/11". So true.

callmeslick wrote:because what Biden said wasn't insensitive nor downright bogus?

Not bogus? So you agree that the Republicans are the epitome of the whip wielding overseer and the democrats are the salvation of the negro population? I guess you forget that Lincoln was a Republican and it was the southern Democrats who fought tooth and nail to keep the black man at the back of the bus.

no Woodchip, I feel that the folks currently calling the shots in the GOP would subjugate virtually every working man and woman in America, and their plans would do so in under a decade, IMO. Race doesn't enter into my thinking, nor did it with Biden, as I pointed out. Just because you saw black faces in a Virginia audience(where the population is 25% non-white) doesn't mean that Joe was referring ONLY to black people being subjugated.

Argument is lost. The whole point of the thread, which TB did magnanimously, was to point out a completely idiotic statement by a politician. Woodchip must, on every occasion, defend his party by using the "their side does it too!" position. Biden was trying to make his point and he used an off the cuff remark that he clearly didn't think about. This Aiken situation is vastly different simply because of the context and how they were asked / answered.

Now, instead of talking about the stupidity of someone that still has a great chance of being in the U.S. Senate, woodchip has successfully changed the topic to Joe Biden. That's solid politics right there.

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