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Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:24 pm
by woodchip
Seems Disney bought out Lucas films:
"Continuing its strategy of delivering exceptional creative content to audiences around the world, The Walt Disney Company (NYSE: DIS) has agreed to acquire Lucasfilm Ltd. in a stock and cash transaction. Lucasfilm is 100% owned by Lucasfilm Chairman and Founder, George Lucas."
Another Star Wars film may happen in 2015
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:58 pm
by Sapphire Wolf
Disney, they're pure evil since the 1930s. First Marvel, then Starwars! What is up with this cold-hearted animation corperation! They're suppose to have a land of happines and joy!
one of My childhood memories has been ruined! Curse you, Disney!
(hey at least The Avengers movie was a miracle)
I hope disney puts the Original Theater versions on blu-ray to make us (sort of) happy.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:47 pm
by Krom
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/30/technol ... index.html
Well, does this mean George Lucas can't screw up Star Wars as much anymore?
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:11 pm
by Gekko71
Meh - Lucas sold out years ago, Nothing new here.
....Although "Use the force Mickey" in a Donald duck voice does have a certain ring to it.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:03 pm
by Tunnelcat
Oh, great. The
kiddification of Star Wars will progress at an even greater rate now. Gag me.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:29 pm
by Sirius
Dunno. Wasn't Disney behind PotC (yes, it kind of jumped the shark in the later movies, but the first was respectable)? And then there was the Narnia stuff. Might not float your boat, but they don't seem to be strictly G-rated.
It still depends heavily on the script, but at least there's a possibility we can get a good script this way. So I'll keep an open mind for now.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:09 pm
by Alter-Fox
Eh, I think Disney would be less fastidious about preserving the intention than Lucas was. From actually reading what he said he didn't want to make most of those changes in the first place... and yeah, I know that such a thing as
lying exists. That doesn't mean it happens
all the time whenever big corporations are involved.
The thing is I think Lucas did the right thing when he cut off the series after two trilogies.
Sure there's plenty of material to work with but I doubt it would be possible to make anything that would matter as much to the canon as even the 'expanded univese'.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm
by Isaac
/r/starwars weighs in:
Comments here are not in any order:
"After seeing what they've done with Marvel Movies, this could be great for Star Wars!"
""Star Wars" episode seven will come out in 2015, Disney says"
"George Lucas serving as creative consultant
Maybe...maybe it'll be a good thing. That's what he did with ANH and ESB, right? Provide creative input?"
"So LucasFilms establishes Industrial Lights and Magic; ILM spins off Pixar; Disney buys Pixar; Disney buys LucasFilms; man creates dinosaurs."
"Alternately:
COMING THIS SUMMER
DIRECTED BY JOSEPH KOSINSKI
STAR WARS: LEGACY"
"Marvel Studios is responsible for those films as well as the people they hire to create them. Disney pretty much sits back and lets the cash flow."
"Holeee ★■◆●...had to read this on three or four websites to make sure it wasnt a joke. Good goddamn. This...is either going to be epically awesome or the end of it all. Episode ★■◆●ing 7. ★■◆● me....."
"This sounds horrible in every way imaginable. I don't WANT an Episode 7. All it is going to do is crap all over the already established expanded universe.
Just leave the franchise alone. Not everything needs a sequel, prequel, reboot, or remake. And THAT is what really scares me. This is the first step towards a remake/reboot. Star Wars is one of those few movies that doesn't really need rebooting or remaking. It should be timeless, for every generation.
Then again, distance Lucas from the franchise, and we might end up getting something really good. Empire Strikes Back is fantastic, and Lucas barely touched it. Maybe letting someone else play with the ideas and setting isn't such a bad idea.
Still, I'm VERY weary about this. I imagine some distant point in the future where Star Wars has been watered down the way Star Trek has."
"Hm. I'm conflicted. On the one hand, it'd be nice to see more live-action Star Wars. Say what you will about the acting and writing, the prequels looked great and I had fun.
On the other hand, if it was animated, they could use the original characters again. They'd almost certainly overwrite the EU doing it, but if they didn't...imagine the Thrawn trilogy done up like the Clone Wars cartoon. I'd actually love to see that since the writing wouldn't be as relentlessly painful as the show. I'm imagining Thrawn and Karrde and C'Baoth and Mara Jade in that sorta stylized Clone Wars animation...and I don't mind it that much.
That'll never happen though. The "Episode 7" title makes me pretty sure it'll be live-action (to the extent that any Star Wars movie is live-action). I'm guessing they'll set it pretty far in the future and skip the EU entirely OR set ~30-40 years after Endor and have the original cast appear as older and wiser mentors to a new generation of action figures characters. They're all still alive, after all. If that happens I'd expect them to gloss over or invalidate most of the EU (in particular the stuff happening at the same time chronologically) but maybe not. Lucasarts has spent a long time keeping a pretty cohesive universe together. Sure, there are lots of frayed bits but it'd be a pretty big change of pace if they pulled a Star Trek and just said "★■◆● it, we're starting over."
...that was way longer than I originally intended. Let this comment serve as my reaction to the entire concept of new Star Wars movies. In general, I'm in favor, and I expect it will be live action."
"Yup. Disney is finally understanding they can make awesome adult movies too. Don't forget they made Prince of Persia and John Carter. Both PG-13 and non-canon Disney characters."
"Please let ep. 7 be the beginning of the Thrawn Trilogy... please please please please..."
"Begun, the nerd wars have."
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:12 am
by Avder
The expanded universe is more than likely going to be crapped on by episode 7. Which sucks, because the universe that the novels and comics and games have created is so much richer than anything the movies have in them.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:14 am
by Isaac
Photoshop and replace Lucas in the picture with Mickey.
http://i.imgur.com/dFVaR.jpg
edit: meh... close enough:
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:02 pm
by Top Gun
Avder wrote:The expanded universe is more than likely going to be crapped on by episode 7. Which sucks, because the universe that the novels and comics and games have created is so much richer than anything the movies have in them.
There is a lot of good stuff there, but there's also a lot of garbage in the EU. That whole Yuuzahn Vong thing (or however it's spelled) seems to have inspired a great deal of nerdraeg.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:43 pm
by Tunnelcat
Top Gun wrote:Avder wrote:The expanded universe is more than likely going to be crapped on by episode 7. Which sucks, because the universe that the novels and comics and games have created is so much richer than anything the movies have in them.
There is a lot of good stuff there, but there's also a lot of garbage in the EU. That whole Yuuzahn Vong thing (or however it's spelled) seems to have inspired a great deal of nerdraeg.
I liked that whole series. Better than the Dark Nest Trilogy. Vector Prime was a pretty good start. It was a bummer that Chewbacca had be the first one to die out of all the original characters though.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:55 pm
by Avder
Top Gun wrote:Avder wrote:The expanded universe is more than likely going to be crapped on by episode 7. Which sucks, because the universe that the novels and comics and games have created is so much richer than anything the movies have in them.
There is a lot of good stuff there, but there's also a lot of garbage in the EU. That whole Yuuzahn Vong thing (or however it's spelled) seems to have inspired a great deal of nerdraeg.
Screw that. I loved the NJO. I'm just ticked off at some of the decisions Lucas made during its writing (he picked who died and who didnt, and I'm not going to say who because spoilers).
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:44 am
by Spidey
That’s funny…being annoyed at a storyteller because the story doesn’t turn out the way you wanted it to.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:56 am
by roid
tunnelcat wrote:I liked that whole series. Better than the Dark Nest Trilogy. Vector Prime was a pretty good start. It was a bummer that Chewbacca had be the first one to die out of all the original characters though.
Just like with any comic strip, there'd be plenty of in-universe mechanisms they could use to bring him back without even breaking into a retcon sweat. Secret cloning, the Force (come back as a ghost then get resurrected via Force magic?), timetravel wormholes, alternative universes, the one who actually died was a shapeshifter (ie:
everyone's a Skrull).
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:19 pm
by Avder
Spidey wrote:That’s funny…being annoyed at a storyteller because the story doesn’t turn out the way you wanted it to.
Except he wasn't the storyteller. Lucas had very little involvement in the creation and production of the NJO except to say "No you cant kill this character, kill this one instead".
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:48 pm
by Gekko71
Avder wrote:Spidey wrote:That’s funny…being annoyed at a storyteller because the story doesn’t turn out the way you wanted it to.
Except he wasn't the storyteller. Lucas had very little involvement in the creation and production of the NJO except to say "No you cant kill this character, kill this one instead".
Very true. Found a great blog post on the subject that puts things in an interesting light:
http://acculturated.com/2012/10/31/geor ... rge-lucas/
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:12 pm
by Spidey
Ok, I think I understand now.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:59 pm
by Avder
Right. The thing that annoys me with Lucas and the NJO is that the creative team who mapped the whole arc out had it in mind that a certain character would die, and another certain character would live. Lucas intervened and said "no, you cant let this character die. Kill this one instead" and because Lucas is the hand of god when it comes to anything Star Wars, the creative team had no choice but to re-work things.
There's a very detailed little q and a writeup at the end of the NJO's final book. It went in depth as to how the whole arc came about, why the characters who died ended up dying to begin with, and how things got changed along the way.
I really, really hope Disney does the right thing and respects the EU as it exists now and does not simply shitcan it with Episode 7. The EU to me *IS* Star Wars, not the movies. Everything in the EU was written by someone who actually cared about the story and wanted to be a part of it. It would be just terrible to throw all of that out the window and start all over.
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:55 am
by Enzo-03
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:21 pm
by roid
jarjar would fit right in with that picture tho
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:57 pm
by Isaac
Re: Disney owns Starwars
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:50 am
by Burlyman
eww disney.
The Galactic Republic is being overtaken by Nazis... oh wait... that already happened. >_>
