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Spidey wrote:What’s that for…paranoid clan members…

ThugsRook wrote:weather manipulation would be/is the highest crime against humanity.

wouldnt you be interested in finding out what HAARP is responsible for since '96?
katrina?
japan?
global warming?

ThugsRook wrote:gullible would be if you actually believed they went to the moon

ThugsRook wrote:gullible would be if you actually believed they went to the moon

flip wrote:Tinfoil won't help. It's conductive.

According to real-life physicist Robert Park, professor emeritus at the University of Maryland and author of Voodoo Science: The Road from Foolishness to Fraud, humans are, in fact, electrical machines (which is one reason we can't capture the last image a dead person sees). "Our senses convert external inputs, such as sound or light, into tiny electrical currents that are processed by the brain," Park says. "A stationary electric charge has an electric field, and a moving charge has a magnetic field. We have electrical and magnetic fields, but we don't give off electrical charges."

MD-1118 wrote:

flip wrote:Tinfoil won't help. It's conductive.

Do you not know what a Faraday cage is?

Foil wrote:

MD-1118 wrote:

flip wrote:Tinfoil won't help. It's conductive.

Do you not know what a Faraday cage is?

Actually, Isaac is right. Tinfoil hats are no Faraday cage; they amplify signals.

TOW wrote:The notion that a tin foil hat can significantly reduce the intensity of incident radio frequency radiation on the wearer's brain has some scientific validity, as the effect of strong radio waves has been documented for quite some time. A well-constructed tin foil enclosure would approximate a Faraday cage, reducing the amount of (typically harmless) radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation passing through to the interior of the structure. A common high school physics demonstration involves placing an AM radio on tin foil, and then covering the radio with a metal bucket. This leads to a noticeable reduction in signal strength. The efficiency of such an enclosure in blocking such radiation depends on the thickness of the tin foil, as dictated by the skin depth, the distance the radiation can propagate in a particular non-ideal conductor. For half-millimetre-thick tin foil, radiation above about 20 kHz (i.e., including both AM and FM bands) would be partially blocked, although tin foil is not sold in this thickness, so numerous layers of tin foil would be required to achieve this effect.

The effectiveness of the tin foil hat as electromagnetic shielding for stopping radio waves is greatly reduced by it not being a complete enclosure. Placing an AM radio under a metal bucket without a conductive layer underneath demonstrates the relative ineffectiveness of such a setup. Indeed, because the effect of an ungrounded Faraday cage is to partially reflect the incident radiation, a radio wave that is incident on the inner surface of the hat (i.e., coming from underneath the hat-wearer) would be reflected and partially 'focused' towards the user's brain. While tin foil hats may have originated in some understanding of the Faraday cage effect, the use of such a hat to attenuate radio waves belongs properly to the realm of pseudoscience.

A study by graduate students at MIT determined that a tin foil hat could attenuate incoming radiation depending on frequency. At WIFI frequencies - 2.4 GHz is attenuated by up to 90dB; the effect was observed to be roughly independent of the relative placement of the wearer and radiation source. At GHz wavelengths, the skin depth is less than the thickness of even the thinnest foil.

a tin foil hat could attenuate incoming radiation depending on frequency

because the effect of an ungrounded Faraday cage is to partially reflect the incident radiation, a radio wave that is incident on the inner surface of the hat (i.e., coming from underneath the hat-wearer) would be reflected and partially 'focused' towards the user's brain

Foil wrote:Sure, tinfoil hats would usually tend to act like a Faraday cage, but the amusing link I included in my last post shows they can actually do the opposite in certain cases / frequency ranges.

Note that this is all tongue-in-cheek; don't get too serious with it.

cannot block static or slowly varying magnetic fields, such as the Earth's magnetic field (a compass will still work inside).

humans are, in fact, electrical machines (which is one reason we can't capture the last image a dead person sees). "Our senses convert external inputs, such as sound or light, into tiny electrical currents that are processed by the brain," Park says. "A stationary electric charge has an electric field, and a moving charge has a magnetic field. We have electrical and magnetic fields

flip wrote:First off, I am Flip, not Isaac Secondly, this is no conspiracy theory thread, that is a legitimate link in my first post, which I doubt you read.

flip wrote:Thirdly, my point was along with Foil, as it depends on the frequency and since faraday cages:

cannot block static or slowly varying magnetic fields, such as the Earth's magnetic field (a compass will still work inside).

and since humans operate on this scale:

humans are, in fact, electrical machines (which is one reason we can't capture the last image a dead person sees). "Our senses convert external inputs, such as sound or light, into tiny electrical currents that are processed by the brain," Park says. "A stationary electric charge has an electric field, and a moving charge has a magnetic field. We have electrical and magnetic fields

a faraday cage could not block frequencies that could interrupt normal human electromagnetic function. I imagine though the results would be maybe disorientation, confusion, maybe nausea.

Yes the whole thing is tongue in cheek , but that is also not to say wholly possible. There has been great strides made in weather manipulation and I imagine a great deal that was wanted accomplished in my first post, has been. I can't help you lack imagination

“The potential applications of artificial electromagnetic fields are wide-ranging and can be used in many military or quasi-military situations… Some of these potential uses include dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control, controlling breaches of security at military installations, and antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare. In all of these cases the EM (electromagnetic) systems would be used to produce mild to severe physiological disruption or perceptual distortion or disorientation. In addition, the ability of individuals to function could be degraded to such a point that they would be combat-ineffective. Another advantage of electromagnetic systems is that they can provide coverage over large areas with a single system. They are silent, and countermeasures to them may be difficult to develop… One last area where electromagnetic radiation may prove of some value is in enhancing abilities of individuals for anomalous phenomena.”--USAF

flip wrote:Hehe, well, all I can say is this. If I had my hands on some of that stuff and thought I might could make somebody cluck like a chicken, I'd have to try it! In fact, this is exactly how the Air Force thinks too:

“The potential applications of artificial electromagnetic fields are wide-ranging and can be used in many military or quasi-military situations… Some of these potential uses include dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control, controlling breaches of security at military installations, and antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare. In all of these cases the EM (electromagnetic) systems would be used to produce mild to severe physiological disruption or perceptual distortion or disorientation. In addition, the ability of individuals to function could be degraded to such a point that they would be combat-ineffective. Another advantage of electromagnetic systems is that they can provide coverage over large areas with a single system. They are silent, and countermeasures to them may be difficult to develop… One last area where electromagnetic radiation may prove of some value is in enhancing abilities of individuals for anomalous phenomena.”--USAF

You don't even have to read between the lines here, but I am curious and interested as hell at what "enhancing abilities of individuals for anomalous phenomena" means

EDIT: I bet this is where the "Voice of God weapon" comes into play. You can communicate through resonance and frequency, but I am not sure how you could achieve 2 way communications with this.