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odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:24 pm
by callmeslick
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... 30-million
boy that Obama admin knows how to waste our money on dead-end tech ventures, huh?
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:48 pm
by MD-1118
Nice car. Wish I could afford it.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:17 pm
by callmeslick
you and me both.......I mean, theoretically, I could purchase it, but the price would be paid from the reaction of Ms Slick to the outlay.......and that price would be dear, indeed.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:33 pm
by Will Robinson
One good quarter and they are coming back....ok...that's fine but it is too soon to say they are going to survive. They have always been the one electric car that appeals to the rich sports car guys so their price tag isn't a problem albeit the market is a very small niche...car guys that are both rich AND like the idea of electric power in a real sports car. Not many of them here on the DBB though.
If you are saying someone should have mentioned it because it somehow validates Obama's dishing out loans to political donors via his green jobs slush fund then fughettaboutit! Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes and this nut is far from ripe.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:51 pm
by woodchip
Well if it turns out like the Fisker (sp) car, it'll fail.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:13 pm
by Ferno
Tesla is the only company aggressively pushing pure electric vehicles. If they can pull off comparable range to gasoline at a price that won't break the bank (relatively speaking), we're going to see a LOT more EV's on the road.
Hope you have your investment plans in place.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:45 pm
by flip
Instead of producing electric cars, they should be finding cleaner ways to produce electricity. Otherwise it's really a moot point.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:46 pm
by Will Robinson
Ferno wrote:?..
Hope you have your investment plans in place.
I do, I have money in Tesla....Obama took it from me in taxes to give to his campaign donors, Tesla being one of them. Most of them took the billions, paid themselves big bonuses and then finished going bankrupt as they were before Obama gave them the "loan"....
So, yea, I'm invested in Tesla! I'll take a red one please! With an Obama phone in it too!
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:46 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
Myself, I'll take a hydrogen hybrid full-size pickup that runs on water.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:19 pm
by woodchip
I'd be satisfied to have one that ran on propane.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:41 am
by CUDA
I'd like to read this but the link is bad
3 thoughts based on the posts already made.
1 a good quarter doesn't mean it is a success.
2 a car for the elite. Nice, how's that help the environment or the economy?
3 OHHHH he got one right. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:21 am
by Sergeant Thorne
CUDA wrote:2 a car for the elite. Nice, how's that help the environment or the economy?
Nailed it.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:00 pm
by Tunnelcat
Can't see it. Linkie dead?
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:35 pm
by Ferno
Will Robinson wrote:Ferno wrote:?..
Hope you have your investment plans in place.
I do, I have money in Tesla....Obama took it from me in taxes to give to his campaign donors, Tesla being one of them. Most of them took the billions, paid themselves big bonuses and then finished going bankrupt as they were before Obama gave them the "loan"....
So, yea, I'm invested in Tesla! I'll take a red one please! With an Obama phone in it too!
Well, if they do well (and I think they will), you'll see that money back. So it's not that bad.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:39 pm
by callmeslick
sorry if the link went bad, but the article was about the fact that the money HAS already been paid back, with interest and dividends, as Tesla is now solvent and viable looking enough to raise funds on the equity markets. So no, Woody, you do not own a share of Tesla.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:14 pm
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:sorry if the link went bad, but the article was about the fact that the money HAS already been paid back, with interest and dividends, as Tesla is now solvent and viable looking enough to raise funds on the equity markets. So no, Woody, you do not own a share of Tesla.
That was me.
So....if they paid the loan back to the government why hasn't my portion of the tax revenue they loaned them been paid back to me with my share of the interest?
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:37 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
f-u-n-n-y (imaginary) m-o-n-e-y
It was never your money. Your money went God knows where (what do we actually pay for, and what is funded by loans?). Provided the U.S. ever pursues fiscal responsibility, it will be your progeny's money debt. This government will have its people by the balls when all is said and done, unchecked, taxwise, and it still won't be make the determination to be fiscally responsible. For a government with no conscience, peopled by individuals with no conscience, there is absolutely no reason to ever pursue fiscal responsibility, until the money flow stops. You could throw out another possibility (survival of the country), but it would be ludicrous to believe it could ever be considered the only way out, and we were not born yesterday.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:08 am
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:callmeslick wrote:sorry if the link went bad, but the article was about the fact that the money HAS already been paid back, with interest and dividends, as Tesla is now solvent and viable looking enough to raise funds on the equity markets. So no, Woody, you do not own a share of Tesla.
That was me.
So....if they paid the loan back to the government why hasn't my portion of the tax revenue they loaned them been paid back to me with my share of the interest?
it has, although the payback is through a minuscule amount of lowering of the public debt. Sorry about the misattribution....didn't mean to confuse you and Woody....
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:39 am
by Jeff250
Sergeant Thorne wrote:CUDA wrote:2 a car for the elite. Nice, how's that help the environment or the economy?
Nailed it.
A lot of everyday technology starts out being only affordable by the elite.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:16 am
by CUDA
Being affordable to, and being designed for are not the same thing.
Base price on the Tsela is 62k. While the all electric Nissan leaf is 28k.
The car was obviously not designed for the average consumer
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:58 am
by callmeslick
CUDA the level of tech in the Tesla is on another level....expect the price to drop with time.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:38 am
by Spidey
Not according to vision.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:41 pm
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:CUDA the level of tech in the Tesla is on another level....expect the price to drop with time.
Just like health care huh slick?
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:53 pm
by Tunnelcat
callmeslick wrote:sorry if the link went bad, but the article was about the fact that the money HAS already been paid back, with interest and dividends, as Tesla is now solvent and viable looking enough to raise funds on the equity markets. So no, Woody, you do not own a share of Tesla.
Oh, in that case, I need to mention that the national debt is starting to get paid down AND the stock market is at an all time high. Even twinkies are coming back. Yee haa! And yes, I wish I could afford a Tesla. So what's the problem
now,
other than Obamacare, all you righties?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/20 ... onal-debt/
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:50 pm
by CUDA
Stock market is a false high. interest rates are so low that investors are putting their money in the market so they can make money because they cannot make it anywhere else. as soon as rates go back up the market will come down and the money will go somewhere else
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:03 pm
by Will Robinson
tunnelcat wrote:
Oh, in that case, I need to mention that the national debt is starting to get paid down ./
No it isn't. Only in lala land or in a sycophantic Obama media piece would a tiny and temporary slow down of the rate of constantly increasing borrowing be called paying "down" the debt!
Go to any lender and borrow $10,000 and then on the day you are scheduled to pay back on the loan tell them you intend to hand them $1 and at the same time you want to borrow an additional $100 more as your scheduled payment and tell me how that works out...
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:58 pm
by Tunnelcat
CUDA wrote:Stock market is a false high. interest rates are so low that investors are putting their money in the market so they can make money because they cannot make it anywhere else. as soon as rates go back up the market will come down and the money will go somewhere else
Pathetic.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:09 am
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:callmeslick wrote:CUDA the level of tech in the Tesla is on another level....expect the price to drop with time.
Just like health care huh slick?
weird analogy between a product and a service? Seems the anti-Obama crowd is starting to reach. I note, also, no mention that Obama's approval rating over the March-May time period has been steadily climbing?
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:23 am
by flip
That's only optimism
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:52 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:Will Robinson wrote:callmeslick wrote:CUDA the level of tech in the Tesla is on another level....expect the price to drop with time.
Just like health care huh slick?
weird analogy between a product and a service? Seems the anti-Obama crowd is starting to reach. I note, also, no mention that Obama's approval rating over the March-May time period has been steadily climbing?
It went right over your head. I was merely commenting on your assertion that healthcare costs would come down and they didnt/wont and I'm implying that you probably are wrong again....
I also think it is funny how in the face of all these scandals which are, at the very least, ethical violations and evidence of his disingenuous character, you only want to focus on how you perceive him maintaining popularity. As if he and his administration are vindicated for their deceit and oppressive tactics!
It may be an indicator of his political survivability but it is in no way a counter to his alleged culpability and it is telling that you are left clinging only that as a means to try and defend them.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:11 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:
I note, also, no mention that Obama's approval rating over the March-May time period has been steadily climbing?
Well his approval may be climbing, but the latest Rasmussen poll will have the Dems and Obama wetting their knickers:
"While the Democrats had an eight-point "trust advantage" over Republicans a month ago, Rasmussen's latest poll said that edge has disappeared and now the GOP has a two-point advantage."
So slick, if this trend continues, you can quite literally kiss the mid terms goodbye. While the Dems keep sending out their minions out to push the message " nothing to see, move along" regarding Benghazi/AP/IRS, it ain't working.In light of the IRS head claiming the fifth and Obama saying he is firing someone but oh by the way, he can keep his temporary job until it expires in June...is not setting well with the public. The more the mainstream starts talking about it the more the low information voters will become informed voters and informed voters scare the bejeezus out the power whoring, message controlling Obama crowd.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:19 pm
by callmeslick
sorry, Woody, but nothing is a given until the GOP gets their slate of candidates.....and, if the Tea Party/Hard right wing loons dominate the primaries, they once again will lose the General in most cases.
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:04 pm
by flip
Well, one thing is for sure, Obama sure knows how to pick em!
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:37 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:sorry, Woody, but nothing is a given until the GOP gets their slate of candidates.....and, if the Tea Party/Hard right wing loons dominate the primaries, they once again will lose the General in most cases.
Right...you mean like the last mid term election where the Dems. suffered their worse loss like in 50 years? Or do you have a short memory?
Re: odd, no mention here of this....
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:43 am
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote:Right...you mean like the last mid term election where the Dems. suffered their worse loss like in 50 years? Or do you have a short memory?
Didn't the tea party get their comeuppance during the last presidential election? Some pretty nutty tea party candidates were offered up...and lost.