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this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 6:02 am
by CUDA
I knew it!! Liberals are the weaker sex
Men who are strong are more likely to take a right-wing stance, while weaker men support the welfare state, researchers claim.
Their study discovered a link between a man’s upper-body strength and their political views.
Scientists from Aarhus University in Denmark collected data on bicep size, socio-economic status and support for economic redistribution from hundreds in America, Argentina and Denmark.
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... z2Te1EaL2v
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:06 am
by callmeslick
funny piece, CUDA.......what's interesting as for extant data is that, as I recall from years of exchanges(and no photos or other 'facts'), you and I are similar in body size. That explains our near agreement on politics.......
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:14 am
by CUDA
It was meant in fun
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:16 am
by CUDA
Plus it is a scientific study, so there must be some truth in it
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:09 pm
by flip
Pfft, who needs a scientific study? It stands to reason that real men want to take care of themselves while girly men want someone else to take care of them
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:25 pm
by CUDA
Sound logical to me
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:03 pm
by Tunnelcat
No, manly men traded away those brains for that extra muscle. They can't have both because all that muscle and extra testosterone causes men to liquify what brains they do have when they beat the crap out of each other all the time.
Manly men didn't create computers and technology, so I rest my case.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:21 pm
by Spidey
I heard Thomas Edison could bench press 400 pounds…
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 6:01 pm
by MD-1118
tunnelcat wrote:No, manly men traded away those brains for that extra muscle. They can't have both because all that muscle and extra testosterone causes men to liquify what brains they do have when they beat the crap out of each other all the time.
Manly men didn't create computers and technology, so I rest my case.
I will argue against this vehemently the day I see a substantial fraction of geniuses competing in those manly-men contests, or Mr. Universe lookalikes joining Mensa and working at CERN.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:33 pm
by Spidey
I love how this thread went from strong men want to take care of themselves to…strong men are stupid.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:04 am
by callmeslick
Spidey wrote:I heard Thomas Edison could bench press 400 pounds…
with his......ah, nevermind.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:06 am
by woodchip
tunnelcat wrote:
Manly men didn't create computers and technology, so I rest my case.
No but it was the manly men who set the steel for those high rise buildings where the nerds are working.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:41 am
by Top Gun
And the nerds were the ones who designed them in the first place.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:09 am
by CUDA
Ah but that gets right back to the original premise, that the nerdy men needed someone to take care of it for them, much as they want the government to take care of them now
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:29 am
by flip
I've known many an architect and engineer, and I can't think of any that were "nerdy."
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:40 am
by Spidey
If you are smart…staying fit just makes good sense.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:06 pm
by Krom
Nerds are clever bastards that make dumb people do the work for them.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:52 pm
by flip
Heh, no in reality, nerds are chronic tunnel carpal syndrome sufferers that can only do one aspect of a job
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:45 pm
by MD-1118
flip wrote:Heh, no in reality, nerds are chronic tunnel carpal syndrome sufferers that can only do one aspect of a job
You mean specialists, just like all those oversaturated-with-testosterone manly men.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:48 pm
by flip
No I mean, they have good ideas, but are completely dependent on others to see it's production
. People who are self-sufficient, meaning brains and brawn, can see a project through to completion.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:54 pm
by MD-1118
flip wrote:No I mean, they have good ideas, but are completely dependent on others to see it's production
. People who are self-sufficient, meaning brains and brawn, can see a project through to completion.
No one is completely self-sufficient. No one individual is capable of achieving every single thing they can think of doing, and no one individual can think of every single thing they are capable of achieving.
That isn't to say that generalisation is a bad thing, though. Both generalisation and specialisation have their usefulness.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:47 pm
by Tunnelcat
CUDA wrote:Ah but that gets right back to the original premise, that the nerdy men needed someone to take care of it for them, much as they want the government to take care of them now
No, the nerdy men had the smarts to outwit nature and other humans and build civilizations. They were, and are, the plotters, planners and designers of everything we've ever made. The manly men are the ones who physically build things with their hands or end up as just cannon fodder to throw at those we want to kill for some reason or another.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:03 pm
by flip
No one is completely self-sufficient. No one individual is capable of achieving every single thing they can think of doing, and no one individual can think of every single thing they are capable of achieving.
That isn't to say that generalisation is a bad thing, though. Both generalisation and specialisation have their usefulness.
Yeah I can agree with that. I think the main thing is to try and be as multi-dimensional as possible.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:59 pm
by Spidey
callmeslick wrote:Spidey wrote:I heard Thomas Edison could bench press 400 pounds…
with his......ah, nevermind.
Brain?
...................................................................
Ahhh, the classic question…
Would you rather be marooned on a desert island with a bunch of doers or thinkers?
Doers…
Masons
Plumbers
Electricians
Carpenters
Etc…
Thinkers…
Politicians
Bureaucrats
Musicians
Artists
Scientists
Etc…
Choose wisely.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:48 pm
by MD-1118
Spidey wrote:Would you rather be marooned on a desert island with a bunch of doers or thinkers?
Doers…
Masons
Plumbers
Electricians
Carpenters
Etc…
Those four vocations you listed would not exist in their current form without thinkers, and if the supplies needed for their occupations are unavailable, then they aren't much use.
Spidey wrote:Thinkers…
Politicians
Bureaucrats
Musicians
Artists
Scientists
Etc…
The first two on this list (by popular example) tend not to think. The last two usually find it difficult, if not impossible, to get anything done without (and, sadly, often enough even
with) the first two. Musicians are thinkers
and doers.
Spidey wrote:Choose wisely.
Sound advice in any situation. I'd rather be marooned on a desert island by myself, though. I'm not very sociable in person, and I'm pretty sure I could contrive shelter, gather and prepare food, and defend myself without any help. Provided the necessary materials are available, that is.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:05 am
by Spidey
tunnelcat wrote:No, the nerdy men had the smarts to outwit nature and other humans and build civilizations. They were, and are, the plotters, planners and designers of everything we've ever made.
That’s total BS, the first example right off of the top of my head is the guy who invented television…he was a farmer…you can’t get any more strong and manly than a farmer.
That also flies in the face of the alpha male, did you know that the big strong types make up a higher percentage of CEO’s than in the general population.
Nerds built civilization....
Re: this explains it
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:21 am
by snoopy
MD-1118 wrote:flip wrote:No I mean, they have good ideas, but are completely dependent on others to see it's production
. People who are self-sufficient, meaning brains and brawn, can see a project through to completion.
No one is completely self-sufficient. No one individual is capable of achieving every single thing they can think of doing, and no one individual can think of every single thing they are capable of achieving.
That isn't to say that generalisation is a bad thing, though. Both generalisation and specialisation have their usefulness.
Except for me.
Re: this explains it
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:43 pm
by Tunnelcat
Spidey wrote:tunnelcat wrote:No, the nerdy men had the smarts to outwit nature and other humans and build civilizations. They were, and are, the plotters, planners and designers of everything we've ever made.
That’s total BS, the first example right off of the top of my head is the guy who invented television…he was a farmer…you can’t get any more strong and manly than a farmer.
That also flies in the face of the alpha male, did you know that the big strong types make up a higher percentage of CEO’s than in the general population.
Nerds built civilization....
No, our
brains helped us
design civilization and our muscles helped
build that same civilization. The process requires both brain and muscle. Neither alone is as capable. So one is NOT better than the other. And most men are a blend of brains and brawn. In fact, the BEST men have aspects BOTH qualities, not an overload of one trait or the other.
By the way, the big strong types of CEO's tend to be the biggest alpha jerks because all that testosterone's in control and they get a raging turn-on reigning supreme over others.