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obama care
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:28 pm
by CUDA
Didn't congress mandate obama-care go into effect Jan 1 2014?
So how can the administration delay it implementation until 2015 when the law says 2014? Which by the way is after another mid-term election
Re: obama care
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:51 pm
by Spidey
I thought that was only the employer mandate part, hell from what I heard a great deal of this law isn’t even written yet.
It’s his law…he can do whatever he wants with it. >SHRUG<
Re: obama care
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:02 pm
by Will Robinson
Is it really a law if it didn't get any votes?
Seems like a bunch of what is in there now never was voted for.
I wonder if there is a law about that. One that was voted for.
Maybe the Supreme Court could play with that debate....
Re: obama care
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:03 pm
by CUDA
Employer mandate goes into effect Jan 2014 by law.
how does he legally ignore it.
Re: obama care
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:26 pm
by flip
States that refuse to expand Medicaid under President Barack Obama's health care reform law not only will deny health coverage to poor residents and lose access to a huge influx of federal dollars, they also will see increased spending on uninsured people's unpaid medical bills, according to a new report by the Rand Corp., a consulting firm.
The Rand Corp. analyzed 14 states with governors who oppose the Medicaid expansion. It found their actions will deprive 3.6 million people of health coverage under Obamacare, forgo $8.4 billion in federal funding, and cost them $1 billion for programs that partially compensate medical providers who care for the indigent, according to the report published in the journal "Health Affairs." Since nearly half of states may not undertake the Medicaid expansion next year, those figures could be even higher. Twenty-two states and the District of Columbia plan to broaden Medicaid in 2014, according to the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation.
Obama and congressional Democrats intended the health care reform law to target financial assistance to those with the lowest incomes by offering Medicaid coverage to people who earn just over the federal poverty level and tax credits to other low- and middle-income people to subsidize the purchase of private health insurance. When the Supreme Court upheld the law last year, it also ruled that states could opt out of the Medicaid expansion, which will dull the impact of Obamacare on the poorest uninsured.
Now, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with the tone being set here, but this is why. Depends on if the state opts out and refuses the money. One thing to watch for is states saying they are opt-ing yet still taking the funds.
Re: obama care
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:33 pm
by Spidey
In all seriousness the administration always has certain discretion in implementing a law. Some of these variables can be written into the law itself…others are pretty much standard, like not having the proper conditions in place to start implementation.
It’s a gray area.
Re: obama care
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:58 am
by Will Robinson
Spidey wrote:In all seriousness the administration always has certain discretion in implementing a law. Some of these variables can be written into the law itself…others are pretty much standard, like not having the proper conditions in place to start implementation.
It’s a gray area.
With a mid term election looming the grey area makes a nice place to hide the big screwup.
Re: obama care
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:09 am
by woodchip
CUDA wrote:Employer mandate goes into effect Jan 2014 by law.
how does he legally ignore it.
How does he tell ICE not to deport illegal aliens?
Re: obama care
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:20 am
by callmeslick
woodchip wrote:CUDA wrote:Employer mandate goes into effect Jan 2014 by law.
how does he legally ignore it.
How does he tell ICE not to deport illegal aliens?
you boys would be well-served by boning up on the powers of his office.......yeesh!
Re: obama care
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:18 pm
by woodchip
callmeslick wrote:woodchip wrote:CUDA wrote:Employer mandate goes into effect Jan 2014 by law.
how does he legally ignore it.
How does he tell ICE not to deport illegal aliens?
you boys would be well-served by boning up on the powers of his office.......yeesh!
You would be wise to bone up on why circumventing law to gain votes is a bad thing...unless of course you want us to become Venezuela.
Re: obama care
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:08 pm
by Tunnelcat
Alas, the castle of healthcare dreams, designed and built by a committee with competing agendas, begins to crumble............