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A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:59 pm
by Nightshade
Can you guess which one it is?

Taqiyya
The taqiyya concept constitutes Islam-sanctioned dissimulation, deception and concealment of inconvenient data, aimed at shielding Islam and "believers" from "infidels" and hostile Muslims. It is a tactic utilized by Muslims during times of strategic inferiority, intended to achieve provisional accords, only to be abrogated once conditions are ripe for vanquishing adversity.
In other words, if a muslim sees you as an infidel- it's ok to lie cheat and do worse to you if he sees that it is in his interest to do so.
According to the Quran’s Sura 3 verse 28, Muslims may appease "infidels" with their lips but not their hearts. Sura 3:54, Sura 8:30 and Sura 10:21 state that "God is the best schemer… ." Sura 16:106 emphasizes that Muslims may be coerced by adverse circumstances -- as a precautionary measure -- to pacify "infidels," by pretending to depart from Islamic values and goals. Sura 2:225 determines that "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts."
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newslet ... hp?id=4965

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:28 pm
by callmeslick
:o

an Israeli source of information about the depths of Muslim philosophy! Yup, that's the best one can do, right?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

why do you care? As a member of the Muslim community, are you outraged? As someone who has vast business dealings with Muslims, are you worried or fearful? Or, are you just Islamophobic? I just can't figure it out...........yeesh!

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:12 pm
by Top Gun
callmeslick wrote:why do you care? As a member of the Muslim community, are you outraged? As someone who has vast business dealings with Muslims, are you worried or fearful? Or, are you just Islamophobic? I just can't figure it out...........yeesh!
Ooh, ooh, I know which one it is!

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:23 pm
by Duper
ThunderBunny wrote:Can you guess which one it is?

Taqiyya
The taqiyya concept constitutes Islam-sanctioned dissimulation, deception and concealment of inconvenient data, aimed at shielding Islam and "believers" from "infidels" and hostile Muslims. It is a tactic utilized by Muslims during times of strategic inferiority, intended to achieve provisional accords, only to be abrogated once conditions are ripe for vanquishing adversity.
In other words, if a muslim sees you as an infidel- it's ok to lie cheat and do worse to you if he sees that it is in his interest to do so.
According to the Quran’s Sura 3 verse 28, Muslims may appease "infidels" with their lips but not their hearts. Sura 3:54, Sura 8:30 and Sura 10:21 state that "God is the best schemer… ." Sura 16:106 emphasizes that Muslims may be coerced by adverse circumstances -- as a precautionary measure -- to pacify "infidels," by pretending to depart from Islamic values and goals. Sura 2:225 determines that "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts."
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newslet ... hp?id=4965
I actually knew this. hmpf.

**edit**
er.. Slick.. you DO know that every Arab state wants to wipe Israel right off the face of the earth, right? Some are just more vocal than others is all.

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:00 pm
by Flabby Chick
callmeslick wrote: an Israeli source of information about the depths of Muslim philosophy! Yup, that's the best one can do, right?
Could you explain what you mean by that.

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:16 am
by callmeslick
Duper wrote:er.. Slick.. you DO know that every Arab state wants to wipe Israel right off the face of the earth, right? Some are just more vocal than others is all.
er. Duper, I know no such thing, nor do you.

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:15 pm
by Nightshade
Flabby Chick wrote:
callmeslick wrote: an Israeli source of information about the depths of Muslim philosophy! Yup, that's the best one can do, right?
Could you explain what you mean by that.
He means that anything written by an Israeli Jew should be written off.

Re: A religion that says it's ok to lie...

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:54 pm
by Duper
You assume incorrectly Slick.