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It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:49 pm
by Nightshade
George Zimmerman was basically railroaded from the beginning by the national press.

I'm not defending what Zimmerman did. He was rather stupid to follow and confront Treyvon Martin and should have let the police handle the situation- but just look at this media campaign to paint Zimmerman as a murderous white skinhead supremacist:
February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin

Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.



March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as "White"

The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.

Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.



March 13, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative

Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:

Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was “white”: “We think Trayvon Martin didn’t know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.”

Earlier that same day, Sharpton's National Action Network released a statement calling for...

...a “complete and thorough investigation” into Martin’s death. He added: “[W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his suspicions to police[.]”

The story about Zimmerman's use of racial language was false.



March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because "He Was Black"

About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.

Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot "bc [because] he was black."

Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of "stalking" and shooting down Trayvon.



March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White

A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.

Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.

In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.

Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the "white Hispanic."



March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a "White Hispanic" by The New York Times

Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term "white Hispanic."



March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying "F**king Coon"

Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur "coon" when he had not.

This has to be watched to be believed.

CNN wouldn't officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.



March 22, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Goes to Florida

Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama's reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.

With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama's Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC's Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:

At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin's parents. "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," he said. "Trayvon could have been any one of us."

He continued:

"We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid! Don't talk to us like we're ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!"

Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.

"We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon," he said.



March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton's Talking Point

The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation's top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.



March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic"

To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous "white Hispanic" bandwagon.

Many others would follow.



March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist

On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call."

Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolved.



March 28, 2012 - ABC News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Wasn't Injured Night of Shooting

The day after NBC News released its falsified 911 bombshell, ABC News released a phony, hyped-up story of its own. Using grainy surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting, ABC News claimed, "A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman."

Obviously, if true, this would go a long way towards proving Zimmerman was not in fear of his life the night of the shooting and had lied about being beaten up.

The only problem is that the ABC News story was not true -- not even close. The network didn't bother to enhance the video before breaking the news. Had they, Zimmerman's bloody head would have been quite apparent.

It would take four days for ABC to retract its falsehood...
Go to http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... -Rap-Sheet to read the rest.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:20 am
by Will Robinson
Unfortunately many in America today are easily influenced by people who put a calculated narrative above the truth.
Where before you only had cults and religions using that tactic openly now we have mainstream media, legislators and community aggitators doing the same.

Zimmerman was seen as an opportunity to take down the proponents of self defense and 2nd Amendment rights etc.
It doesn't matter to them if he was innocent of the accusations they piled up at his feet, after all, according to their reasoning, he is just some gun nut that deserves to be punished for excercizing a right he shouldn't have in the first place. So they gleefully set out to portray him as the stereotypical monster.

How perfect it was to them if they could call him white since the guy he shot was black!
All you have to do is ignore the little detail that the black guy attacked the 'white guy' and you have the racepimps with all their willfully ignorant mouthpieces and minions ready to march. As well as it is a story the media loves to cash in on...they will slip into race mode at every opportunity.

So now the foundation of their comments now is '...he shot an unarmed kid! Something is wrong with that!!

Well, yea, something is wrong and it is the dishonest assertion that Martin was simply a shooters victim.
He was an assailant that was shot.

That's the part that is always missing from the narrative....Martin's culpability in the chain of events. A key part that the jury, thankfully, didn't ignore.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:25 pm
by Tunnelcat
Will Robinson wrote:So now the foundation of their comments now is '...he shot an unarmed kid! Something is wrong with that!!

Well, yea, something is wrong and it is the dishonest assertion that Martin was simply a shooters victim.
He was an assailant that was shot.

That's the part that is always missing from the narrative....Martin's culpability in the chain of events. A key part that the jury, thankfully, didn't ignore.
The kid was unarmed, which means he was not carrying a weapon. He was minding his own business. He wasn't a burglar or a criminal. He fought with his own hands against someone who was stalking him and never identified himself. He's now dead and gone forever. He was someone's child who was loved. Think about that if he were your child. I'm willing to bet your callousness and attitude would change if he had been your child who'd been shot and killed.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:49 pm
by CUDA
And if Zimmerman had not been armed Martin maye have beaten him to death.so what justified Martin to assault Zimmerman?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:59 pm
by callmeslick
CUDA wrote:And if Zimmerman had not been armed Martin maye have beaten him to death.so what justified Martin to assault Zimmerman?
he merely confronted someone stalking him. That is, and I use large type for emphasis, ALL ANY OF US KNOW ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
The only person who knew the truth wasn't talking, and was protected by the Constitution against self-incrimination. Anything such as CUDA's analysis is based on conjecture.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:03 pm
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:And if Zimmerman had not been armed Martin maye have beaten him to death.so what justified Martin to assault Zimmerman?
he merely confronted someone stalking him. That is, and I use large type for emphasis, ALL ANY OF US KNOW ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
The only person who knew the truth wasn't talking, and was protected by the Constitution against self-incrimination. Anything such as CUDA's analysis is based on conjecture.
No, "merely confronting" does not usually include beating someones head into the sidewalk. And certainly that kind of confrontation includes a felony assault charge assuming the victim survives it!
And we heard Zimmermans account of what happened. His defense team presented it and the prosecution played video of his first person accounting of it.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:03 pm
by CUDA
Slick, The jury that saw the evidence disagrees with you.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:06 pm
by Will Robinson
tunnelcat wrote:...

The kid was unarmed, which means he was not carrying a weapon. He was minding his own business. He wasn't a burglar or a criminal. ....
No, according to the evidence and the jury he didn't mind his own business. He assaulted an armed man who then shot him after the assault escalated to the point the assault victim feared for his life.
People who mind their own business don't beat people's head into the cement as a way to mind thir own business....

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:08 pm
by Krom
TC: Saying "you would think differently if it was your child"... Sure we would think differently, but that doesn't change the facts or how a jury would rule based upon them.

And slick, what difference does it make here if the only person who knows the truth speaks or not, nobody around here would listen anyway. Once again everyone has already made up their minds, the truth remains as irrelevant as ever.

Truth died with the "free" press.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:10 pm
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:And if Zimmerman had not been armed Martin maye have beaten him to death.so what justified Martin to assault Zimmerman?
he merely confronted someone stalking him. That is, and I use large type for emphasis, ALL ANY OF US KNOW ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
The only person who knew the truth wasn't talking, and was protected by the Constitution against self-incrimination. Anything such as CUDA's analysis is based on conjecture.
No, we heard Zimmermans account of what happened. His defense team presented it and the prosecution played video of his first person accounting of it.

and, thus, that account could be neither questioned nor rebutted.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:12 pm
by callmeslick
point well taken, Krom :)

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:13 pm
by CUDA
callmeslick wrote:
Will Robinson wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:And if Zimmerman had not been armed Martin maye have beaten him to death.so what justified Martin to assault Zimmerman?
he merely confronted someone stalking him. That is, and I use large type for emphasis, ALL ANY OF US KNOW ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
The only person who knew the truth wasn't talking, and was protected by the Constitution against self-incrimination. Anything such as CUDA's analysis is based on conjecture.
No, we heard Zimmermans account of what happened. His defense team presented it and the prosecution played video of his first person accounting of it.

and, thus, that account could be neither questioned nor rebutted.
and that doesn't change the FACT that the other evidence supported it

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:14 pm
by callmeslick
CUDA wrote:Slick, The jury that saw the evidence disagrees with you.
actually, no, they sort of agreed with me. The evidence is really speculative, and thus a reasonable doubt carried the day. As I said in my first post in the thread, this was a test of at what point instigation of an incident overcomes self-defense later in the incident. The jury concluded that it did not. I might disagree, but c'est la vie.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:16 pm
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:
Will Robinson wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:And if Zimmerman had not been armed Martin maye have beaten him to death.so what justified Martin to assault Zimmerman?
he merely confronted someone stalking him. That is, and I use large type for emphasis, ALL ANY OF US KNOW ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
The only person who knew the truth wasn't talking, and was protected by the Constitution against self-incrimination. Anything such as CUDA's analysis is based on conjecture.
No, we heard Zimmermans account of what happened. His defense team presented it and the prosecution played video of his first person accounting of it.

and, thus, that account could be neither questioned nor rebutted.
Not at all true. The prosecution rebutted it to the best of their ability. They just had very little substance to work with. They had conjecture and wishful thinking and spent over a year and probably hundreds of thousands of dollars just putting that weak sauce on the menu. The actual facts and witnesses they had were supportive of Zimmerman!

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:22 pm
by CUDA
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:Slick, The jury that saw the evidence disagrees with you.
actually, no, they sort of agreed with me. The evidence is really speculative, and thus a reasonable doubt carried the day. As I said in my first post in the thread, this was a test of at what point instigation of an incident overcomes self-defense later in the incident. The jury concluded that it did not. I might disagree, but c'est la vie.
Sort of?

What was the instigation, the legal following on an individual? Or the illegal assault on an individual?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:26 pm
by callmeslick
CUDA wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:Slick, The jury that saw the evidence disagrees with you.
actually, no, they sort of agreed with me. The evidence is really speculative, and thus a reasonable doubt carried the day. As I said in my first post in the thread, this was a test of at what point instigation of an incident overcomes self-defense later in the incident. The jury concluded that it did not. I might disagree, but c'est la vie.
Sort of?

What was the instigation, the legal following on an individual? Or the illegal assault on an individual?

ignoring police advice not to confront or follow.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:29 pm
by Tunnelcat
Will Robinson wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:...

The kid was unarmed, which means he was not carrying a weapon. He was minding his own business. He wasn't a burglar or a criminal. ....
No, according to the evidence and the jury he didn't mind his own business. He assaulted an armed man who then shot him after the assault escalated to the point the assault victim feared for his life.
People who mind their own business don't beat people's head into the cement as a way to mind thir own business....
He WAS minding his own business until Zimmerman went after him. That much we know for sure. NONE of this would have happened if Zimmerman had waited, IN HIS CAR, until the police arrived. Zimmerman wasn't exactly a little wussy either in the fist fight department either. He went in knowing he'd win in any confrontation BECAUSE he had the gun.
Krom wrote:TC: Saying "you would think differently if it was your child"... Sure we would think differently, but that doesn't change the facts or how a jury would rule based upon them.
No, but in all the vitriol and blame concerning Martin, people seem to forget that this was someone's kid for criss sake, who died for the stupidest of reasons, macho posturing. Maybe Martin overreacted to Zimmerman's approach, but we don't know how that transpired and the only other witness is dead. Zimmerman made all this happen by his actions. That is one of the reasons we don't usually condone vigilantes.
Krom wrote:And slick, what difference does it make here if the only person who knows the truth speaks or not, nobody around here would listen anyway. Once again everyone has already made up their minds, the truth remains as irrelevant as ever.

Truth died with the "free" press.
Maybe, but without a free press, the alternative is far worse. :wink:

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:32 pm
by CUDA
He WAS minding his own business until Zimmerman went after him.


Zimmerman didn't "go after him" he followed him BIG difference

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:34 pm
by callmeslick
CUDA wrote:He WAS minding his own business until Zimmerman went after him.


Zimmerman didn't "go after him" he followed him BIG difference
no evidence to show that, at all. In fact, Zimmerman went out of his way to obscure what exactly happened, and especially where it happened.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:39 pm
by CUDA
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:He WAS minding his own business until Zimmerman went after him.


Zimmerman didn't "go after him" he followed him BIG difference
no evidence to show that, at all. In fact, Zimmerman went out of his way to obscure what exactly happened, and especially where it happened.
evidence proved otherwise

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:41 pm
by Krom
TC: Everyone is someones kid.

And that alternative to the free press you speak of, you do realize that ship sailed years ago...That "alternative" is exactly what we have today.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:48 pm
by callmeslick
CUDA wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:He WAS minding his own business until Zimmerman went after him.


Zimmerman didn't "go after him" he followed him BIG difference
no evidence to show that, at all. In fact, Zimmerman went out of his way to obscure what exactly happened, and especially where it happened.
evidence proved otherwise
did you see any of this?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:50 pm
by Tunnelcat
CUDA wrote:He WAS minding his own business until Zimmerman went after him.


Zimmerman didn't "go after him" he followed him BIG difference
We don't know when "follow" got to the point of too close to avoid a confrontation, DO WE? The only other witness IS NOW DEAD. Anything from Zimmerman's mouth is to cover his ass. :wink:
Krom wrote:TC: Everyone is someones kid. And that alternative to the free press you speak of, you do realize that ship sailed years ago...That "alternative" is exactly what we have today.
Oh, I don't disagree with you that the press has de-evolved into nothing but a tabloid profit muckraker for big corporations. Accurate and objective journalism died years ago. It's really shameful. Everyone now has stooped to the level of the National Enquirer. But if we get rid of what we have left, there is no backup or alternative, period. Even the net will soon be owned and controlled, down to very the electron, by the big corporations and telecoms. Then that outlet for free speech will vanish as well. We either have to make due, or we're screwed.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:59 pm
by CUDA
Unlike you, I put my faith in a jury that was selected by BOTH sides to be fair and impartial.and I trust their review of those facts. And I have seen enough of the testimony to agree with their verdict. I didn't base my stance on what I wanted to see, or somthing contrary to the legal binding verdict that the jury declared. I based it upon my knowledge of the evidence reported, and what I have read regarding the testimony. How you could claim to have any more knowledge about it then I, and come up with a conclusion contrary to the duly selected jury of his peers is astounding

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:40 pm
by Nightshade
I posted this thread to point out that media bias to push an agenda is now naked and to the point of distorting and/or fabrication when facts don't fit. What is scary is that a virtual lynch mob of mainstream media came after a private citizen to make certain he was punished and made out to be something he wasn't. That most of this media is ideologically aligned with the government and willing to act as a state propaganda organ should be chilling no matter what side you're on. You'd better pray you're not in its sights one day.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:36 pm
by snoopy
I wonder if Zimmerman has a legal case against the media....

They certainly cost him (or at least the people that financed his defense) a whole lot of money. I think there's a pretty clear case for arguing that had it not been for their intervention (and falsification of information) no defense would have been needed. The question is, are they protected from the consequences?

Personally, I'd love to see them pay through the nose...

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:24 pm
by CUDA
snoopy wrote:I wonder if Zimmerman has a legal case against the media....

They certainly cost him (or at least the people that financed his defense) a whole lot of money. I think there's a pretty clear case for arguing that had it not been for their intervention (and falsification of information) no defense would have been needed. The question is, are they protected from the consequences?

Personally, I'd love to see them pay through the nose...
There is already a suit pending.

Plus it brings into question the prosecution intentionaly witholding evidence from his attorneys, is there a suit there against the state. Not to mention the DOJ race baiting this case. Another suit?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:19 am
by snoopy
CUDA wrote:Plus it brings into question the prosecution intentionaly witholding evidence from his attorneys, is there a suit there against the state. Not to mention the DOJ race baiting this case. Another suit?
I thought withholding evidence was pretty standard practice? I guess the rules state that all evidence must be shared or something?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:14 am
by Will Robinson
So the self serving media whores continue to spread the lies about Zimmerman, feeding the fires they hope to report on:
Nancy Grace 'repeats' the false repot of Zimmerman saying fu(#ing coons to 911 operators.
I think she already caused one person to die with her negligent sensationalism so what the hell, let's see if she can get multiple victims out of this one!

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:22 am
by flip
I think it says a lot that a neighborhood watchman, observes someone he feels is suspicious, calls the police immediately and then shoots and kills the guy . How does it get from that to murder? Why would someone call the police if they knew they were fixing to jump on somebody and kill them. Just considering the things we do know, it is more than likely Martin initiated the confrontation. I hear all these arguments about how Martin did nothing wrong, he was just going to the store, but the fact is he got pissed because he was being profiled and followed. He then proceeded to attack Zimmerman, who ended up on the ground with his head being slammed into it. At that point, he pulls his gun and fires at his attacker from point blank range and all the evidence is consistent with that play of events. Martin may have been minding his own business at first, but when confronted, he became a thug. He is not an innocent person in this and more than likely caused the atmosphere that led to his own death.

EDIT: My biggest complaint in all this is that it is being used to stir the pot. It was an obvious self-defense case and any reasonable person could have looked at it from the beginning and guessed what the outcome would be, and that's exactly why it was given the spotlight.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:28 am
by flip
http://www.amren.com/news/2013/07/4-tee ... leton-man/

Have any of you heard about this? It is much more cut and dried ;) A white man is minding his own business, walking down the road. Is confronted by 4 black teens who attack him and start beating the piss out of him and then PUSH HIM INTO THE PATH OF AN ONCOMING VEHICLE! Where's the mass media outcry for this, or is it just so obvious that it cannot be used to promote disharmony?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:04 am
by Will Robinson
flip wrote:http://www.amren.com/news/2013/07/4-tee ... leton-man/

Have any of you heard about this? It is much more cut and dried ;) A white man is minding his own business, walking down the road. Is confronted by 4 black teens who attack him and start beating the piss out of him and then PUSH HIM INTO THE PATH OF AN ONCOMING VEHICLE! Where's the mass media outcry for this, or is it just so obvious that it cannot be used to promote disharmony?
Well, according to our attorney general it isn't possible for a black person to commit a hate crime against a white person.
And as for the media, this story doesn't fit the template of a good race story, it doesn't advance their preferred narrative, so it wont get much light shined on it.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:36 pm
by Nightshade

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:18 pm
by Tunnelcat
ThunderBunny wrote:I posted this thread to point out that media bias to push an agenda is now naked and to the point of distorting and/or fabrication when facts don't fit. What is scary is that a virtual lynch mob of mainstream media came after a private citizen to make certain he was punished and made out to be something he wasn't. That most of this media is ideologically aligned with the government and willing to act as a state propaganda organ should be chilling no matter what side you're on. You'd better pray you're not in its sights one day.
If you think that the media is aligned with the government, then you'll just love this one even though it's a slightly different tack. :lol:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv ... 9932.story

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:19 am
by Foil
ThunderBunny wrote:What is scary is that a virtual lynch mob of mainstream media came after a private citizen to make certain he was punished and made out to be something he wasn't. That most of this media is ideologically aligned with the government and willing to act as a state propaganda organ should be chilling no matter what side you're on. You'd better pray you're not in its sights one day.
And yet, with all that "chilling" force of government-aligned-with-media... he was acquitted and is a free man. And that "lynch mob", while protesting, is doing so peacefully.

I don't think the media-government conspiracy is the force you think it is.

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:26 am
by CUDA
Foil wrote:while protesting, is doing so peacefully.
no they aren't.

they are rioting and vandalizing business in Oakland. there is a report of a man being beaten with a hammer by a mob of young black men, there is also a report of a Hispanic man on the east coast being chased by a mob of young black men while they wielded a gun, they finally caught him and beat him yelling this is for Trayvon

that doesnt sound peaceful

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:27 am
by Foil
I haven't seen those reports. Link?

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:38 am
by CUDA

Re: It's hard to believe this is America...

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:41 am
by Will Robinson
Foil wrote:
ThunderBunny wrote:What is scary is that a virtual lynch mob of mainstream media came after a private citizen to make certain he was punished and made out to be something he wasn't. That most of this media is ideologically aligned with the government and willing to act as a state propaganda organ should be chilling no matter what side you're on. You'd better pray you're not in its sights one day.
And yet, with all that "chilling" force of government-aligned-with-media... he was acquitted and is a free man. And that "lynch mob", while protesting, is doing so peacefully.

I don't think the media-government conspiracy is the force you think it is.
The things the media did to falsely portray Zimmerman as a racist murderer before the trial are outrageous. The things that celebrities did before and during the trial are outrageous.
The things Obama and his administration did to stir up emotions among black people before the trial are outrageous.

And for you to imply all of that isn't such a threat is way wrong. And Zimmerman hasn't escaped the wrath of all of those people and the force of the Obama team. He has avoided their first assault.

All the people being beaten up 'for Trayvon' now are victims of the joint efforts of all those people who you imply are not that powerful.

What Zimmerman is up against is a monster on the leash of dispicable people that dont care one bit about innocent people. It was created so its masters could seize power and profit by setting it upon their enemies and they have to feed it at every opportunity or else it will turn on them.

There is no racial component to what Zimmerman did, guilty or not of murder or any lesser charge, there simply is no evidence of his being a racist. Evidence of the exact opposite is abound.
Yet, first and foremost, the shooting was turned into a national racial emergency by a horrible group of self serving people. And thanks to the way America volunteers to be divided in half politically those horrible people immediately raised an enormous army of willful idiots to keep the racial bonfire burning.

Trayvon who?