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TunnelCat wrote:Men in college don't know how to make informed choices and neither do the women. They still don't have developed frontal lobes at that age.

Sergeant Thorne wrote:That's totally a load of ****. No need to blame on natural inexperience and the frontal lobe what can be explained by selfish, negative social trends and a lack of proper parenting

DHHS wrote:The prefrontal cortex is one of the last regions of the brain to reach maturation. This delay may help to explain why some adolescents act the way they do. The so-called “executive functions” of the human prefrontal cortex include:

Focusing attention
Organizing thoughts and problem solving
Foreseeing and weighing possible consequences of behavior
Considering the future and making predictions
Forming strategies and planning
Ability to balance short-term rewards with long term goals
Shifting/adjusting behavior when situations change
Impulse control and delaying gratification
Modulation of intense emotions
Inhibiting inappropriate behavior and initiating appropriate behavior
Simultaneously considering multiple streams of information when faced with complex and challenging information

This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise “good judgment” when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.

Sergeant Thorne wrote:I'm from a different world, TC. A world that actually exists. A world of personal responsibility, where young people are not waiting for a chance to cast off restraint. A world where it's inhabitants are thoroughly brainwashed to embrace their slavery and live uptight, prejudiced lives. A world where everyone and every thought is evil unless you are one of the chosen few who live under God's grace. A world where facts take a back seat to mysticism. A world where fear and guilt are used to keep order and the mantra of personal responsibility is used an excuse to bottle up compassion and any real sacrifice.

tunnelcat wrote:Men in college don't know how to make informed choices and neither do the women. They still don't have developed frontal lobes at that age. They'd rather drink and party until they're thoroughly plastered and THEN have as much sex as possible and have that easy "out" for their "one night stands". They treat this as a right too.

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Yeah, I forgot to mention that vision doesn't know anything about it either.

vision wrote:

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Yeah, I forgot to mention that vision doesn't know anything about it either.

Apparently you don't know your own imagined world very well either. So which is it Thorne? Do college age kids act out from "lack of personal responsibility" or "negative social trends and poor parenting?" Because you can't have it both ways. If someone is a product of poor parenting and negative social trends, how are they responsible for their actions? At what arbitrary point do you go from blaming the parents and society to blaming the individual? Before or after their brain is fully developed? When they become a legal adult (which happens while they are still developing cognitively)? When they first learn the concept of responsibility? Have you ever thought to address the fact that early childhood experiences that can't be remembered will shape a person's decision-making process for the rest of their lives? And that even if this fact is recognized there is little that can be done to change it, even if resources are available? Seems like your philosophy is not very well thought out.

Gee, if only everyone had parents that were good and wholesome like the righteous preachers on the TV!

vision wrote:

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Yeah, I forgot to mention that vision doesn't know anything about it either.

Apparently you don't know your own imagined world very well either. So which is it Thorne? Do college age kids act out from "lack of personal responsibility" or "negative social trends and poor parenting?" Because you can't have it both ways. If someone is a product of poor parenting and negative social trends, how are they responsible for their actions? At what arbitrary point do you go from blaming the parents and society to blaming the individual? Before or after their brain is fully developed? When they become a legal adult (which happens while they are still developing cognitively)? When they first learn the concept of responsibility? Have you ever thought to address the fact that early childhood experiences that can't be remembered will shape a person's decision-making process for the rest of their lives? And that even if this fact is recognized there is little that can be done to change it, even if resources are available? Seems like your philosophy is not very well thought out.

Gee, if only everyone had parents that were good and wholesome like the righteous preachers on the TV!

CUDA wrote:SERIOUSLY.?

woodchip wrote:At least back in my day the girls knew how to keep their legs crossed and 11 year olds didn't have cell phones to take pictures of their naked bodies.