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Sergeant Thorne wrote:So what does this practically mean, and why is there not a "safety net" for the federal government?

woodchip wrote:

Sergeant Thorne wrote:So what does this practically mean, and why is there not a "safety net" for the federal government?

Most states have what is called a "rainy day fund" that they put money into to help when money is not flowing into the coffers. Too bad the feds are not bright enough to follow the states examples.

CUDA wrote:Cant laugh for one second can you?

callmeslick wrote:2014 is going to be fascinating, as the GOP takes a built-in, historical favoritism in the mid-terms, and throws it all away.

CUDA wrote:Racist

try to get past that TC, its not flattering

tunnelcat wrote: No, you're blind. The raw hatred, vitriol, name calling and just plain not-willing-to-deal, AT ALL, with a black president, is far more pronounced and nasty than plain ol' political gamesmanship and partisanship. The Freudian slips are too numerous to ignore. You may not think it's a factor in this whole mess, but it's a BIG factor, whether you like it or not.

Sergeant Thorne wrote:It may not be all Obama's fault, but I'm convinced the Democratic party and the White House saw this coming and did nothing to stop it because they were hoping the opposition would use it to hang themselves. (and now they're engaged in maneuvering to ensure that is the outcome)

callmeslick wrote: ... My hope is that, sometime in the next two weeks, he loses those 24 members scared witless in his caucus, and they declare as independants caucusing with the Dems, to save themselves from tar-and-feathering back in PA, VA, NJ and NY. Then, not only will this goofy ploy have failed, but Boehner can start addressing Nancy Pelosi(or perhaps Stenny Hoyer) as 'Speaker'.

Will Robinson wrote:

callmeslick wrote: ... My hope is that, sometime in the next two weeks, he loses those 24 members scared witless in his caucus, and they declare as independants caucusing with the Dems, to save themselves from tar-and-feathering back in PA, VA, NJ and NY9. Then, not only will this goofy ploy have failed, but Boehner can start addressing Nancy Pelosi(or perhaps Stenny Hoyer) as 'Speaker'.

The point you are addressing aside for a moment...Don't you find it at all depressing that you are actually hoping to put Pelosi in charge of anything? The woman is an insipid loon who should be kept away from sharp objects...as well as any new legislation that might come oozing out of Congress.

CUDA wrote:Nope your a racist. You ALWAYS make it about race. ALWAYS.

Seldom does anyone discuss race here. But TC like clockwork can't even comprehend that this is about WHAT he is doing. Not WHO he is.

There are some people in this country that do make it about race. But that is a small portion of the population. Sad really that they cannot get past it, And what is even sadder is that you are one of them. No one on this forum makes disagreeing with Obama more about race than you do.

Go out and ask a sampling of African Americans what they think. I have and most of them tell me they think racism is driving all this anti-Obama rhetoric and vitriol, most of it absolutely absurd if you just listen to some of it.

ThunderBunny wrote:That Obama is the worst president ever in the history of the country has little to do with his race. It is his radical leftist agenda, hubris and belief that the presidency is a de facto monarchy by executive order that makes him so.

just a few of the things that have been inexplicably affected by the government shutdown:

“Treatments for children suffering from cancer. The Republicans have agreed to a compromise by funding the part of the government, including the National Institute of Health, which offers children with cancer last‑chance experimental treatment… The NIH was told by the President, ‘You can’t start any new testing of anything.’ As soon as the Republicans found out about it, they said, ‘Not a problem. Let’s make sure that we fund the NIH. We’ll pass a special bill to fund the NIH so we can save children,’” Glenn explained. “If that’s what you really picked out of the 100% of the pie, you only need to shut down 15%, if that’s what you pick, we’ll fund that. So [Republicans] said, ‘We’ll pass it.” The President said he will veto it if it gets to his desk. That’s the compromise.”

“World War II Memorial is open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It doesn’t have a staff to it. It is maintained with private financing, built by private financing, maintained with private financing. The White House knew in advance that these flights come in all the time… And so what do they do? They put a chain‑link fence around the World War II Memorial… You have your National Park Service coming out and saying, ‘We were told to inflict as much pain as possible,’” Glenn explained. “Then when the GOP finds out about it, the congressmen remove the barricades. When one of the park rangers says, ‘Hey, you can’t do that’ and starts yelling at the people in the wheelchairs, what happens? The president raises the stakes and then says, ‘I’m going to put guards around that memorial.’ So he’s spending money. Does that seem reasonable to you? By the way, the GOP has offered to cover any costs to keep the memorial open for the greatest generation.”

“Then there’s the furloughed military chaplains. The military chaplains are not allowed to work for free. They have all said, ‘We will celebrate mass. We will do our services. We will do baptisms for free.’ They have been told they will be punished if they do it,” Glenn explained. “So you have a baby to be baptized; the military priest cannot baptize your child or he’ll go to jail. He can’t celebrate mass anywhere for free or he will go to jail. Does this sound reasonable to you at all?”

“In the Florida Keys small businesses, hunters, and commercial fishermen can no longer practice their trade,” he said. “They have tried to close down the ocean. The Feds are saying, ‘You can’t do any fishing on the ocean.’ Does this seem reasonable to you?”

“The American Forces Network, AFN, these are the people that carry shows like mine, they carry shows like… 50% of the shows have to be liberal. But they also not just broadcast the news and talk,” Glenn said. “They also bring our Armed Forces all of the sporting events, all the football games and everything else. The golf course at Camp David is deemed essential, but AFN carrying the football games, carrying them, carrying them. Not doing them. Carrying them… By the way, Camp David, the golf course and Camp David is open.”

“The D‑day Memorial. The GOP has offered to compromise and fund all of the National Parks,” Glenn explained. “The President has said he will veto any compromise on legislation. So the D‑day Memorial in Normandy has now been barricaded.”

“Mount Vernon, George Washington’s home, is privately funded. The Feds blocked the visitors from entering the parking area because the National Park Service maintains the lot… No federal money is used to operate any of these parks. In fact, the federal government makes money through the operation of these parks,” Glenn said. “He had them all closed down and so the 400 to 500 private employees have been furloughed. And by the way, they don’t get any of their money back. They’re just destroyed. Because, I forgot to tell you: The GOP and the Democrats did get together in some emergency legislation. They don’t give a crap about the 400 to 500 employees that are privately. But those government workers, they raced to make sure they knew, ‘Oh, don’t worry. You’ll get your money.’”

“A self‑sustaining colonial farm that hasn’t received a dime of government money since 1980 has been closed for the first time in 40 years. The National Park Service has succeeded in closing the farm to the public. In the previous budget dramas, the farm has always been exempted because the government pays nothing, provides no staff, nor do they provide any resources to operate the farm,” he explained. “The President has closed the Vietnam Memorial. The GOP passed the compromised legislation that would fund the memorial, keep it open to the public, but the president said he would veto it.”

“The operator of a 51‑room inn located on U.S. Government‑owned land in North Carolina abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep his property open despite being ordered to shut down as part of the federal government shutdown. October is this inn’s prime season,” Glenn said. “The GOP has offered a compromise to open this particular park, but the President said no to that compromise. So here is a private individual that will lose out on the money that he makes in his prime season. State troopers, by the way, have blocked the customers have entering the parking lot. How much are they spending on the state troopers? Again, Park Service ranger said, ‘We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can.’”

“The President has forced residents out of their private homes – the government shutdown being felt close to home for some locals. They say they’re being forced out of their private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land,” Glenn said. “Acadia Park, Maine, ‘We’ve been training at two years at Crossfit for this hike, no kidding.’ She said the shutdown now is going to keep everybody off of Acadia Park.”

“A historic restaurant opened during the last shutdown, forced to close. An iconic Philadelphia restaurant been forced to close its doors and turned away book parties because of the government shutdown,” he said. “That is a private restaurant. They won’t get any money back.”

“There’s a road that goes through a Colorado park,” Glenn said. “The forest service announced the Pitkin County commissioners to order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the tourist season, ahead of what is supposed to be one of the busiest weekends of the fall. The road is to be closed at T Lazy 7 Ranch pending the resolution of the shutdown.”

“And here’s my favorite. We joked about this. They actually did it. They are now blocking access to trails, roads, and programs at South Dakota’s most popular attraction,” Glenn explained. “The National Park Service has now placed cones along the highway outside of Mount Rushmore this weekend, barring visitors from stopping and looking at the mountain. You cannot stop on the road. And they have officers there to ticket you if you do.”

“The U.S. Department of Agriculture has gone turned off its entire website in response to the government shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters, and others with no way to access any of the agency’s information online,” Glenn said. “The USDA’s total website goes far beyond response of other federal agencies. Seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the shutdown. Thursday morning calls to the USDA’s press office seeking an explanation were not answered.”

“The President has closed the Military Commissary. Military members and veterans and families who shop at the local tax‑free store were shocked to discover that the store’s doors had been locked. They have closed the PX. This is where you go and you shop if you’re a military family. This is at Andrews Air Force base. They have shut the commissary and they have shut the PX,” Glenn said. “So you can’t go buy any groceries, you can’t go buy any clothes, any medicine. You can’t go buy meat, nothing.”

But, not to worry, while the American people are adversely effected by the closing of privately funded businesses, monuments, and memorials around the country, the President can still enjoy some R&R at his favorite golf courses.

“However, the President’s golf course remains open. But he said that’s because the golf course is paid for by private funds. Wait a minute. So is the World War II Memorial. So is the farm. So is the restaurant. So is the damn road that you just put cones on,” Glenn said. “This is a strike and a slap across the face. This, I’m warning you, America, this is the sign of a dictator. He is slapping you across the face and saying, ‘You will behave. You will do what I tell you to do or I will punish you.’ If your friends don’t wake up and see the nonsense and see what they are in store for, when you’re spending money to put cones on the highway so people can’t stop and even see Mount Rushmore, we get everything we deserve. And we are about to get a lot.”

ThunderBunny wrote:...radical leftist agenda...

Glenn Beck wrote:The Republicans have agreed to a compromise by funding the part of the government, including the National Institute of Health, which offers children with cancer last‑chance experimental treatment…

vision wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:...radical leftist agenda...

I actually laughed out loud at this statement.

vision wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:...radical leftist agenda...

I actually laughed out loud at this statement.

And how is Glen Beck still relevant to any discussion?