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'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:42 am
by Will Robinson
I know slick tells us this is just white conservative paranoia but lets pretend he is wrong for the sake of discussion. Lets assume it is really out there because there are enough people playing along to give us something to observe. For instance Russell Simmons and Rev. Al Sharpton are holding rallies and
launching a campaign to stop this imaginary phenomenon.
And now a black politician has offered a
bit of diagnosis as to the cause of the attacks (that aren't really happening).
I find this last part fascinating because she has touched on a subject that no white person could without poisoning the message with a big placeholder for the race card to be firmly implanted.
Amid an array of “knock-out” attacks against a number of Jews in Brooklyn’s Crown Heights neighborhood, a city councilwoman pointed to the success of the Jewish community as triggering the aggression. Councilwoman-elect Laurie Cumbo emphasized that while she “admire the Jewish community immensely” for its work ethic, black teens may see it differently.
“While I personally regard this level of tenacity, I also recognize that for others, the accomplishments of the Jewish community triggers feelings of resentment, and a sense that Jewish success is not also their success,” Cumbo, who was recently elected, wrote in a letter. Chief among the issues causing resentement against Jews could stem from hostility towards Jewish landlords, she added. Cumbo, who is black, said that she was looking to “offer possible insight as to how young African American/Caribbean teens” think and how it can lead to the attacks.
Cumbo expressed concern over the attacks and supported investigations and legal actions against perpetrators.
Will the exploration of this motivation, and more importantly, how that kind of motive can be fostered within a group, be undertaken in the media? Or will she be vilified for being some kind of sell out? Will she need to back pedal her comments into some kind of garbage that every one offended can then step around and ignore?
Other groups are able to see the success of people outside their own. Why don't they choose to entertain themselves by randomly beating the crap out of them? What is the reason this group accepts this violence as a 'thing to do"? Will that last question be talked about out in the open? Personally I think that last question is the door to open to solve a whole lot of the problems that cause such a disparity in the quality of life for those 'playing the game'.
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:57 am
by callmeslick
as I noted before, in the limited case of attacks on Hasidim in NYC, those were exclusively black youth as the attackers. And, I really don't see the 'race card' implications of anyone calling for investigation and aggressive legal action against any perpetrators. To claim that to be something a white person couldn't call for is dimwitted. As for her speculation about 'success' or the role of Jewish landlords, who knows? Once again, mere speculation on her part, and she acknowledges as much.
Finally, I never claimed such attacks don't occur, Will, and you know it. I merely said it wasn't some sort of wild, widespread phenomenon that some scared little white guys want to make it out to be. I'll stand by that assertion, and if anything, you prove me right on both counts, because you are merely continuing the storyline about one set of attacks in one city of over 6 million people. Why do you care so much? Do you care as much about the legions of black youth who get incarcerated for crimes white suburban kids wouldn't? Do you care about the black kids in city schools without transportation to those schools? And, so on and so on......
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:38 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:...Why do you care so much? Do you care as much about the legions of black youth who get incarcerated for crimes white suburban kids wouldn't? Do you care about the black kids in city schools without transportation to those schools? And, so on and so on......
I care a great deal about the cause of this 'game'. As I indicated I believe the root of why a sub group has accepted it and it has caught on across the urban areas where that sub group is concentrated is the root of many of those issues you mentioned!
This sub group is in many ways like the Palestinians are. Proxy pawns in power struggle. Their plight is necessary for the players in the 'real' game that makes the knockout game a love tap by comparison.
And we all know the race card would be in full display if Mit Romney had said the very same things so stop the spinning before you get motion sickness.
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:45 pm
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:[quote="callmeslickAnd we all know the race card would be in full display if Mit Romney had said the very same things.
nonsense. Mitt never showed any signs of that sort of deep insight into how real people live, so he would have never uttered the words.
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:12 pm
by Spidey
I went to elementary school in North Philly, during the height of the 60’s gang violence, and there was no transportation of any sort…not even the hoards of parents that drive their kids to school in this moderately safe area. (sometimes only a few blocks) We walked.
Plenty of transportation for the bussed students tho......
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:04 pm
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:Will Robinson wrote:[quote="callmeslickAnd we all know the race card would be in full display if Mit Romney had said the very same things.
nonsense. Mitt never showed any signs of that sort of deep insight into how real people live, so he would have never uttered the words.
Dodging the point and in a really lame fashion too. Good little democrat, your master is pleased I'm sure.
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:53 am
by callmeslick
Spidey wrote:I went to elementary school in North Philly, during the height of the 60’s gang violence, and there was no transportation of any sort…not even the hoards of parents that drive their kids to school in this moderately safe area. (sometimes only a few blocks) We walked.
Plenty of transportation for the bussed students tho......
and, besides an odd combination of self-pity and self-congratulation, your point is?
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:55 am
by callmeslick
Will Robinson wrote:callmeslick wrote:Will Robinson wrote:[quote="callmeslickAnd we all know the race card would be in full display if Mit Romney had said the very same things.
nonsense. Mitt never showed any signs of that sort of deep insight into how real people live, so he would have never uttered the words.
Dodging the point and in a really lame fashion too. Good little democrat, your master is pleased I'm sure.
no, actually, I'm using YOUR dodge. You said a white person couldn't say that. I called that observation BS. I could and have said similar.....no one called me racist. Bill Clinton, for example, could make the same statement with the same result. You came up with the specific example of Mitt Romney, who, as I asserted, wouldn't have the insight to have ever made the statement in the first place.
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:07 am
by Will Robinson
callmeslick wrote:Will Robinson wrote:callmeslick wrote:Will Robinson wrote:[quote="callmeslickAnd we all know the race card would be in full display if Mit Romney had said the very same things.
nonsense. Mitt never showed any signs of that sort of deep insight into how real people live, so he would have never uttered the words.
Dodging the point and in a really lame fashion too. Good little democrat, your master is pleased I'm sure.
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no, actually, I'm using YOUR dodge. You said a white person couldn't say that. I called that observation BS. I could and have said similar.....no one called me racist. Bill Clinton, for example, could make the same statement with the same result. You came up with the specific example of Mitt Romney, who, as I asserted, wouldn't have the insight to have ever made the statement in the first place.
What point did you make that I dodged?!?
None!
And I'll rephrase my assertion to accommodate your pathetic word games.
I don't believe that any white person, that isn't a treasured icon or tool of the liberal ruling class, could say that black youth are attacking people of other races out of resentment and envy and not have the race card played on them!
You can try to deflect or re characterize that all you want but the people reading this live in the real world and they know it as well as I do.
And by the way, it's amusing to see you imagine you are so well revered that if you published those comments yourself you would be as protected as Bill Clinton!
Personally I always wanted to be Jimmy Page but I never would say my work is on his level. You, on the other hand, have quite a high opinion of yourself to think you and Cllinton could carry the same cache!
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:24 am
by Spidey
callmeslick wrote:Spidey wrote:I went to elementary school in North Philly, during the height of the 60’s gang violence, and there was no transportation of any sort…not even the hoards of parents that drive their kids to school in this moderately safe area. (sometimes only a few blocks) We walked.
Plenty of transportation for the bussed students tho......
and, besides an odd combination of self-pity and self-congratulation, your point is?
Self pity and self congratulation…lol you sure live in a confused little world.
The point was, we weren’t being groomed to be dependent little pussies.
Re: 'Knockout Game' and the implications...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:37 am
by callmeslick
.....just whining little adults. Seems a wash to me.