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Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:41 am
by callmeslick
exhibit A:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/f ... hite-guys/
exhibit B
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/p ... -kids-gay/
now, A didn't go off the rails until she turned Jesus white, but the B example is moronic from the get-go. What baffles me is that folks who, presumably, have lots of experience before the public, insist on making such idiotic remarks.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:59 am
by Tunnelcat
Because they're uninformed, uneducated morons trying to push their idiotic agendas.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:03 pm
by callmeslick
tunnelcat wrote:Because they're uninformed, uneducated morons trying to push their idiotic agendas.
and then, some of us wonder why the folks that live off Faux News, and fundamentalist outlets seem so woefully uninformed.......
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:20 pm
by Tunnelcat
Oh, Fox sometimes has some credible stuff. You just have to know how to pick the grain from the considerable amount of chaff being thrown around.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:42 pm
by vision
Jesus isn't white?
* faints *
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:25 pm
by Spidey
I always thought Santa was an elf…aren’t they kind of gray.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:35 pm
by woodchip
Obviously trying to keep Santa human instead of turning him into a flightless bird. As to Jesus, the left had to problem turning a hispanic into a white guy.
Now a elderly citizen who may be suffering from mental issues is on your list to ridicule? I hope I'm around to see what you post when you turn 80.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:54 pm
by vision
Suffering mental issues alright, but not due to age...
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:02 pm
by woodchip
vision wrote:Suffering mental issues alright, but not due to age...
And you know this...how?
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:59 pm
by Top Gun
I blame inbreeding myself.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:23 pm
by vision
woodchip wrote:vision wrote:Suffering mental issues alright, but not due to age...
And you know this...how?
Because Pat Robertson has been anti-gay his entire life and this is just more of the same nonsense he's been spouting off for decades. Nothing to do with age.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:33 am
by Tunnelcat
vision wrote:Jesus isn't white?
* faints *
Shssssssssssssh! Don't say he was Jewish either. They might go apoplectic!
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:53 pm
by Tunnelcat
Megyn Kelly now has a face-saving excuse. "It was just her attempt at "humor" and her detractors are just race-baiting. Uh, huh. No, she can't worm out of this one so easily. No take backs. She sure sounded
dead serious to me when she b**ched and moaned about the very idea of a "Black Santa" to her guests. Even Jon Stewart commented on what she now calls her "humor" a couple of nights ago.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/megyn-kelly-sa ... 01717.html
http://www.thewrap.com/jon-stewart-fox- ... ate-video/
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:20 pm
by callmeslick
Stewart was funny as hell on the subject........as often is the case. He has so completely skewered the whole 'War on Christmas' thing by now as to make the Fox annual campaign a national joke.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:43 pm
by Spidey
Why can't Santa be a white guy?
He lives at the friggin north pole for gards sake.
He is a creation of European/Norse mythology....
Duh!
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:48 pm
by callmeslick
Spidey wrote:Why can't Santa be a white guy?
He lives at the friggin north pole for gards sake.
He is a creation of European/Norse mythology....
Duh!
That's why I made the comment at the outset that Megan didn't really go off the rails until she ventured into Jesus......let's face it, a storybook creation that lives at the North Pole and has a flying sleigh pulled by reindeer can be of any color imaginable.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:17 pm
by Will Robinson
Its amusing to see how Jesus can instantly become so important to all those who usually wish he and his followers were never mentioned out loud.
For a brief moment they became the protectors of his legacy!
You can paint his picture by smearing your feces on a canvas and demand a government grant to fund the placement of your 'art work' in a public museum but damn you to hell if you describe him as white skinned!
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:33 pm
by Ferno
callmeslick wrote:That's why I made the comment at the outset that Megan didn't really go off the rails until she ventured into Jesus......let's face it, a storybook creation that lives at the North Pole and has a flying sleigh pulled by reindeer can be of any color imaginable.
like this guy.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:29 pm
by Tunnelcat
Spidey wrote:Why can't Santa be a white guy?
He lives at the friggin north pole for gards sake.
He is a creation of European/Norse mythology....
Duh!
I thought St. Nicholas was the fourth century bishop from a place called Myra, which is now in Turkey. Most of the people living in Turkey don't have lily white skin. They're more Mediterranean, slightly darker skinned, in appearance. But hey, If Americans want to turn him into a fat white guy who now comes to represent all things greedy and commercial about Christmas, instead of honoring the also not-so-white Aramaic Jesus, for whom this holiday was intended, who I'm I to complain?
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:53 pm
by Spidey
Yea, well…you’re kinda splitting hairs now tc…many different skin tones in and around that area, people have been migrating in and out of there for centuries.
But yea, the Santa we all know and love is basically a creation of Coca-Cola and a certain American artist. (or two)
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:48 pm
by Tunnelcat
Americans are too obsessed with race. Even a slightly off-white Santa gets a lot of people's undies in a bunch, especially at Fox. I'll bet if most Americans looked deep into their genetic past, they'd find that they were not as
"pure white" as they thought. My nearest family history is a mix of British, German and Scandinavian. I'm sure there's more I haven't found, maybe even sub-Saharan African genes, but, so what?
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:55 pm
by Top Gun
Technically our ancestors all hung out in Africa, so take that as you will.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:05 am
by woodchip
I have a rich friend who says Jesus is indeed white.
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:59 am
by Tunnelcat
Jon Stewart says that if Megyn Kelly "claims" she was joking, he has an "apology" for her.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/jon-stewart-ap ... 201596.htm
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:48 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
I think it ought to be admitted that what gets people so worked up about Santa Clause supposedly not being white is that it's just a form of racial or anti-racial pandering. "We're not racist! Here! You can have the white in our Santa Clause!" I doubt many of those people would have a problem if they went to visit a black family and there was a depiction of Santa as a black man. At the same time, why should anyone have a problem with Santa being white? I don't celebrate Christmas, but as far as I know Santa Clause is originally European.
I've heard of people who are adamant that Jesus was Black. As far as I'm concerned when someone gets so hung up on skin color like that it just shows where they're coming from. Jesus was what he was, not what we want him to be to make us more comfortable. Who even gives a damn what his skin color was? All of us white people weren't even included in God's people until Jesus brought salvation to the gentiles. We were ★■◆● out of luck unless we decided to become Jewish and keep the law just like the Jews!
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:22 pm
by Tunnelcat
OK, I'll throw out this theory. It's been hypothesized that dominant Christian white Europeans and religious leaders through time depicted Jesus as a white man on purpose, all to foster and promote white supremacy and imperialism around the world. Sounds crazy, but it may have a smidgen of truth behind it.
I also remember when the Discovery Channel came out with this depiction of Jesus. Many Americans promptly threw a fit over it and called it heresy. If skin color is not important for the image of Jesus, why did a lot of Americans get angry when this representation of Jesus was created a few years back?
http://www.historywiz.com/christianity.htm
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _Jesus.ogv
Re: Why do people say such things....
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:26 pm
by CUDA
tunnelcat wrote:OK, I'll throw out this theory. It's been hypothesized that dominant Christian white Europeans and religious leaders through time depicted Jesus as a white man on purpose,
Yes
all to foster and promote white supremacy and imperialism around the world. Sounds crazy, but it may have a smidgen of truth behind it.
No