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I wonder what great enemy they are preparing to face and defeat?

Surely it can't be America. We're disarming and reducing our nuclear forces to zero. Nuclear Zero is Obama's dream!

China and Russia help global defence spending rise for first time in five years

New forecasts show China's defence spending will outstrip Britain, Germany and France combined by 2015

Soaring defence budgets in China and Russia mean global military spending is growing for the first time in five years, according to new forecasts.
Spending across Asia and the Middle East is surging even as the military powers of Europe and the US are forced to scale back dramatically in the face of austerity cuts - contributing to a steady change in the balance of military power.
The figures were disclosed as the secretary general of Nato issued a stark warning that the West will cede influence on the world stage because of its falling spending.
Anders Fogh Rasmussen said he was concerned about falling funding in Washington and European capitals while there was a military spending spree in Russia and China.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... years.html

Weakness invites war.

um, why would you find it shocking that China spent as much to defend itself than Germany, France and England combined, when they have at least 5 times the population and gawd-knows-how much more border than those 3 combined? More fear-mongering.

callmeslick wrote:um, why would you find it shocking that China spent as much to defend itself than Germany, France and England combined, when they have at least 5 times the population and gawd-knows-how much more border than those 3 combined? More fear-mongering.

Perhaps this will enlighten the dimwitted:

http://www.japancrush.com/2013/stories/ ... japan.html

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/ ... 817?page=1

didn't answer my question whatsoever. If it is alright for Great Britain or Germany to have the budget they have for defense, why is China not allowed?And further, who the hell gave TB the right to decide?


note, again, how at the first question or pushback, TB has to call those questioning his point 'dimwitted'.....per usual around here.

OMG!! They're invading already!!!
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/rich-ch ... 2D12051630

China already has us by the balls, and when they decide to squeeze, they wont have to fire a shot.

Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

Now cough…

Yea, but the problem is that China is developing a consumer base a lot faster than we are regaining manufacturing.

I think it's kind of funny to suggest that we might have china by the balls because America is such a big consumer... it's not like they'd have to kill off every single civilian in a takeover... All that would mean then is a China controlled consumer of China products.

I personally don't think the downfall of our country will look like that.

Top Gun wrote:Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

bingo

callmeslick wrote:

Top Gun wrote:Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

bingo

Do you think that will matter once a Chinese coast guard boat sinks a Japanese fishing boat or vice versa?

A Chinese drone shot down over the Senkaku Islands by Japan?

ThunderBunny wrote:

callmeslick wrote:

Top Gun wrote:Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

bingo

Do you think that will matter once a Chinese coast guard boat sinks a Japanese fishing boat or vice versa?

A Chinese drone shot down over the Senkaku Islands by Japan?

matter to the US? Likely not. It would be handled diplomatically, I am quite sure. Similar stuff HAS happened already, you are aware, right?

This is not surprising . Natural reaction to the boundless impudence Americans. It had to happen sooner or later. U.S. exports to other countries is not democracy, but impose their style immorality , hypocrisy and lawlessness , which provokes other countries on the arms race and symmetrical response .
In fact, the most formidable weapon of the Chinese - is a genetic weapon. It is well known that, when mixed blood of the white man and the Negro child is born with an odds ratio of Negro genes . So, the Chinese race genes several times stronger than that of the Negro race .

sigma wrote:In fact, the most formidable weapon of the Chinese - is a genetic weapon. It is well known that, when mixed blood of the white man and the Negro child is born with an odds ratio of Negro genes . So, the Chinese race genes several times stronger than that of the Negro race .

sweet jesus are we actually reading this

Top Gun wrote:

sigma wrote:In fact, the most formidable weapon of the Chinese - is a genetic weapon. It is well known that, when mixed blood of the white man and the Negro child is born with an odds ratio of Negro genes . So, the Chinese race genes several times stronger than that of the Negro race .

sweet jesus are we actually reading this

What you're hearing from Sigma is the racist view that exists in Russian Orthodox Russia.

They probably also think Jews should be exterminated.

callmeslick wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:

callmeslick wrote:

Top Gun wrote:Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

bingo

Do you think that will matter once a Chinese coast guard boat sinks a Japanese fishing boat or vice versa?

A Chinese drone shot down over the Senkaku Islands by Japan?

matter to the US? Likely not. It would be handled diplomatically, I am quite sure. Similar stuff HAS happened already, you are aware, right?

What "Similar" stuff? And not matter to the US? Are you nuts? We have a defense treaty with Japan to come to their aid.

Of course , racism is directly related to genetics. But the scientific racism and political racism - are two different things . Russia is the same multi-religious nation like America . I would even say that Russian Christians are much more tolerant of religious freedom than Catholics and Muslims . Especially considering that despite the fact that the Russian Orthodox church now professes Christianity in the soul of every Russian remained pagan, in my opinion. Jews are no different from other religions in Russia.
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Amendment: In this context, I certainly meant as a multi-confessional and multi-ethnicity.

woodchip wrote:

callmeslick wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:

callmeslick wrote:

Top Gun wrote:Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

bingo

Do you think that will matter once a Chinese coast guard boat sinks a Japanese fishing boat or vice versa?

A Chinese drone shot down over the Senkaku Islands by Japan?

matter to the US? Likely not. It would be handled diplomatically, I am quite sure. Similar stuff HAS happened already, you are aware, right?

What "Similar" stuff? And not matter to the US? Are you nuts? We have a defense treaty with Japan to come to their aid.

for gawdsakes, there have been numerous minor(minor unless you are involved on the site with them)incidents between Japan and China over territorial claims over my lifetime. All end up being talked out.

sigma wrote:In fact, the most formidable weapon of the Chinese - is a genetic weapon. It is well known that, when mixed blood of the white man and the Negro child is born with an odds ratio of Negro genes . So, the Chinese race genes several times stronger than that of the Negro race .

this might be one of the most ignorant, repulsive comments I've ever read on this, or any, forum

Just what exactly makes the Chinese stronger than the Negros (is that even a legitimate term?)? I don't know of anything. I've only ever heard of positives when it comes to the strength of black people. And then when dissimilar races are mixed, don't you end up correcting genetic weaknesses, if anything?

for Woody, from a history of the region:
"For decades, Tokyo and Beijing generally abided by a tacit agreement to keep the islands dispute quiet. Japan agreed not to carry out any new construction or let anyone land on the islands; China agreed to delay assertion of any claim to the islands and not let the dispute interfere with trade and political relations. Although flare-ups occurred, usually triggered by some altercation between the Japanese coast guard and Chinese fishing vessels or by nationalist Japanese or Chinese activists trying to land on the islands, the lingering territorial dispute played only a minor role in bilateral relations."

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Just what exactly makes the Chinese stronger than the Negros (is that even a legitimate term?)? I don't know of anything. I've only ever heard of positives when it comes to the strength of black people. And then when dissimilar races are mixed, don't you end up correcting genetic weaknesses, if anything?

In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

callmeslick wrote:

woodchip wrote:

callmeslick wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:

callmeslick wrote:

Top Gun wrote:Given how heavily China's economy depends on our consumer market, one could just as easily say that we have them by the balls too.

bingo

Do you think that will matter once a Chinese coast guard boat sinks a Japanese fishing boat or vice versa?

A Chinese drone shot down over the Senkaku Islands by Japan?

matter to the US? Likely not. It would be handled diplomatically, I am quite sure. Similar stuff HAS happened already, you are aware, right?

What "Similar" stuff? And not matter to the US? Are you nuts? We have a defense treaty with Japan to come to their aid.

for gawdsakes, there have been numerous minor(minor unless you are involved on the site with them)incidents between Japan and China over territorial claims over my lifetime. All end up being talked out.

Minor claims is one thing, shooting down or sinking something is quite another

Jeff250 wrote:

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Just what exactly makes the Chinese stronger than the Negros (is that even a legitimate term?)? I don't know of anything. I've only ever heard of positives when it comes to the strength of black people. And then when dissimilar races are mixed, don't you end up correcting genetic weaknesses, if anything?

In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

Yes, but genetic strengths or weaknesses are known as such because of the physical strengths or weaknesses they translate into. So for instance I look at the fact that black people have the capacity to be highly intelligent, physically strong, live to a good old age, resist disease as well as anyone else, ... I really don't know of any negatives. I'm sure there are positives and negatives in various areas in the various races, in the grand scheme of things, depending on your criteria, but I don't know of any legitimate argument against inter-racial offspring (like there is for, for instance, in the case of in-breeding).

Jeff250 wrote:In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

Absolutely.

There is another problem , except the strength of the natural genetics of different races . For example, some ethnic prohibit representatives of their nationality to profess a religion other than Islam . For example, Russian has the freedom of religion , even if he was baptized in the Orthodox Church by their parents. Russian at will can accept Islam , Buddhism, Judaism , Catholicism , paganism , in short , any religion in accordance with their worldview. But I know that the Arabs , Chechens, kill fellow tribesman , if he wants to take , for example , Christianity or any other religion.

sigma wrote:

Jeff250 wrote:In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

Absolutely.

That sounds suspiciously like something designed to dissuade white people from interracial marriage. "If you marry a black person, then your children won't even look like you." But, like anything, there might be a hint of truth to it. For instance, Obama is half-white and half-black, yet we call him black, not white. But is that because black genes are more dominant, or does it really just speak to some lingering racial prejudices of our society?

Jeff250 wrote:

sigma wrote:

Jeff250 wrote:In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

Absolutely.

That sounds suspiciously like something designed to dissuade white people from interracial marriage. "If you marry a black person, then your children won't even look like you." But, like anything, there might be a hint of truth to it. For instance, Obama is half-white and half-black, yet we call him black, not white. But is that because black genes are more dominant, or does it really just speak to some lingering racial prejudices of our society?

This is not prejudice. I talked to a competent person from a special Russian counterintelligence department, which deals with such threats to Russia. There is no place for prejudice. Unfortunately, I can not tell you more details about it. Sorry.

Jeff250 wrote:

Sergeant Thorne wrote:Just what exactly makes the Chinese stronger than the Negros (is that even a legitimate term?)? I don't know of anything. I've only ever heard of positives when it comes to the strength of black people. And then when dissimilar races are mixed, don't you end up correcting genetic weaknesses, if anything?

In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

even so, the argument has no basis in Genetic fact.

sigma wrote:This is not prejudice. I talked to a competent person from a special Russian counterintelligence department, which deals with such threats to Russia. There is no place for prejudice. Unfortunately, I can not tell you more details about it. Sorry.

absolute nonsense. Your 'person' is anything but competent if he laid that load of manure on you. What 'threats' to Russia entail bogus genetic claims?

Apparently , the Russian government takes care of the Russian gene pool, unlike the U.S. . Most likely, some nationalities more harm than good. Chinese, negros , Arabs, this nationality, alien Russian nation. They do not want to assimilate to Russian traditions. Likely Russian government does not want to repeat the mistakes of the U.S. , always drugs are sold on every corner. Infected with the disease , even the U.S. military responsible for launching nuclear missiles , air traffic controllers , many government representatives in the United States use drugs . Is not that true?
So I was feeling that many decisions of international importance the U.S. Government takes under the influence of narcotic drugs. It's not even funny. They should be placed on compulsory treatment.

sigma wrote:Apparently , the Russian government takes care of the Russian gene pool, unlike the U.S. . Most likely, some nationalities more harm than good. Chinese, negros , Arabs, this nationality, alien Russian nation. They do not want to assimilate to Russian traditions. Likely Russian government does not want to repeat the mistakes of the U.S. , always drugs are sold on every corner. Infected with the disease , even the U.S. military responsible for launching nuclear missiles , air traffic controllers , many government representatives in the United States use drugs . Is not that true?
So I was feeling that many decisions of international importance the U.S. Government takes under the influence of narcotic drugs. It's not even funny. They should be placed on compulsory treatment.

Hmmm, now I know where all those white supremest ideas of superiority came from. Russia and the Slavic region. Don't you realize sigma, that genetically stagnant races that haven't mixed up their gene pool are less adaptable to changes in the environment and are less resistant to new diseases that come along? In the southeast portion of your own country, there is a mix of Asiatic, Mongoloid, and Northern White genes. In the south and southwest, there is a mix of Indian and Mediterranean with Northern White. Your country is no more genetically pure than any other country in the world.

And if you don't think your political leaders, or civilians, don't use drugs or other vices in their spare time, you're seriously deluded. Human nature is the same all over the world, and Russians are no different, unless you're all aliens from another planet. Russia has the greatest number of injecting drug users in the world, estimated at around 1.8 million people. A third of those users are infected with HIV and up to 90% have Hepatitis C. They have to buy those drugs from somewhere, and I think the back alleys in most large Russian cities are no different than in the U.S. when it comes to drug dealing. Maybe you need to roam around your own back alleys in the poorer sections of Russian cities sometime and take a look.

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/1245

http://en.rylkov-fond.org/wp-content/up ... Russia.pdf

As for Sochi, the last time I saw drinking water that color, it was either toxic, dirty, or so laced with iron it was undrinkable. And can't the Russians make a toilet that will flush toilet paper? Are you guys still third world? Last time I heard, most toilets and most normal sewer systems were MADE to handle toilet paper. Maybe Russians don't wipe their behinds after using the toilet since their poorly constructed sewer systems can't handle a wad of used toilet paper.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news ... ls-3114062

Your beloved Putin doesn't even care about his own citizens when putting on the Olympic games either. It's just a small village. They can just suffer for that wonderful, all-important, nationalistic Russian pride.

[youtube]gEAwLUf9pfA[/youtube]

Jeff250 wrote:

sigma wrote:

Jeff250 wrote:In terms of genetic strength, I think he's referring to, e.g., dominant versus recessive genes, not something like physical strength.

Absolutely.

That sounds suspiciously like something designed to dissuade white people from interracial marriage. "If you marry a black person, then your children won't even look like you." But, like anything, there might be a hint of truth to it. For instance, Obama is half-white and half-black, yet we call him black, not white. But is that because black genes are more dominant, or does it really just speak to some lingering racial prejudices of our society?

I do believe in legal terms you are considered the race of the father here in the US, at least that’s what I have heard from bi-racial people who wanted to know why their birth certificates said either black or white.

Also I have heard that certain traits are dominate, such as skin, hair color and such...but nothing that can be considered "racial".

sigma wrote:Apparently , the Russian government takes care of the Russian gene pool, unlike the U.S.

how, pray tell...? Plus, all the genetic planning in the world won't overcome the genetic damage done by the highest alcohol consumption rate on the planet.

Most likely, some nationalities more harm than good. Chinese, negros , Arabs, this nationality, alien Russian nation. They do not want to assimilate to Russian traditions. Likely Russian government does not want to repeat the mistakes of the U.S. , always drugs are sold on every corner.

actually, drugs are easy to buy in Russia, as is sex.

Infected with the disease , even the U.S. military responsible for launching nuclear missiles , air traffic controllers , many government representatives in the United States use drugs . Is not that true?

we have had a scandal around that. But, there is a key difference. We, the people, know about the scandal. How much of your military is under the influence of alcohol, or drugs? You act as if Russia has no drug problem. Heroin is readily available in your nation and has been for decades. But, you don't know about such matters, because your nation treats you like a stupid beast and keeps you in the dark.

So I was feeling that many decisions of international importance the U.S. Government takes under the influence of narcotic drugs. It's not even funny. They should be placed on compulsory treatment.

you're big on 'compulsory', I'd guess.

You are absolutely right . Genetically pure Russian , giants with wheat -colored hair and blue eyes is almost gone. But you forget that in Russia for centuries home to over 180 different nations and nationalities. Therefore considered all Russian people , who were born in Russia and are native Russian traditions. Russia is a country self-sufficient to maintain healthy blood Russian nation. The best proof of this is the natural beauty of Russians . Beauty Russian women are benchmark for the world. I hope you will not deny it.
Of course , the drug problem exists in Russia . You are sadly mistaken if you think that drugs are easy to buy in Russia. Most of the drug is prepared at home. Are engaged in the very lowest social strata . Drug also enjoys the creative elite and children are very rich parents . But the middle class is spared from this disease. With regard to the political elite even more serious situation . Here , even if the policy colleagues to hear that he was using drugs , it immediately fired ( at best) , take away his business , his property. Because there are many willing to take his place. Therefore, politicians and business leaders fear the plague even rumors about their drug addiction .
Alcohol use much everywhere around the world.
As for the video. Reporters interviewed the members of the lower strata of the population, who are dissatisfied with the dust from the construction, but which have just can not figure out what the global infrastructure of the city has attracted an influx of tourists and investors raise their standard of living. In addition, a large number of people affected at a construction site, got a new home elsewhere or compensation in monetary terms. But foreign journalists because unprofitable to do a report about it, is not it? =)
You asked how the government is struggling with a genetic influence on the Russian gene pool. I do not know how. But Russia is still very, very few members of quite alien races, like the Arabs , blacks, Chinese, Vietnamese , etc.

That's purely subjective Sigma. Some of the most beautiful women I've EVER seen were of Spanish origin.

flip wrote:That's purely subjective Sigma. Some of the most beautiful women I've EVER seen were of Spanish origin.

flip, I am glad that in America there are still real men. The most important thing - that dick stood like a stick. I'm glad you're heterosexual. Women - it is a gift of God for men.

sigma wrote:

flip wrote:That's purely subjective Sigma. Some of the most beautiful women I've EVER seen were of Spanish origin.

flip, I am glad that in America there are still real men. The most important thing - that dick stood like a stick. I'm glad you're heterosexual. Women - it is a gift of God for men.

...or, for lesbians.

sigma wrote:You are absolutely right . Genetically pure Russian , giants with wheat -colored hair and blue eyes is almost gone. But you forget that in Russia for centuries home to over 180 different nations and nationalities. Therefore considered all Russian people , who were born in Russia and are native Russian traditions. Russia is a country self-sufficient to maintain healthy blood Russian nation. The best proof of this is the natural beauty of Russians . Beauty Russian women are benchmark for the world. I hope you will not deny it.
Of course , the drug problem exists in Russia . You are sadly mistaken if you think that drugs are easy to buy in Russia. Most of the drug is prepared at home. Are engaged in the very lowest social strata . Drug also enjoys the creative elite and children are very rich parents . But the middle class is spared from this disease. With regard to the political elite even more serious situation . Here , even if the policy colleagues to hear that he was using drugs , it immediately fired ( at best) , take away his business , his property. Because there are many willing to take his place. Therefore, politicians and business leaders fear the plague even rumors about their drug addiction .
Alcohol use much everywhere around the world.

sigma, drug use knows no social class or status. If you think your middle class is free from the disease, you're deluded. A lot of things go on behind closed doors, or does your government watch over everything people do in their own homes? As for buying it, the internet is a ready source now. Most people can hide their addition quite well too. Even family members sometimes don't know about it. It can only be found through drug testing. How much of that is being done in Russia, I have no idea. There is a lot of testing here, but it's not being done everywhere in every job. And since the fall of Communism in Russia, the Oligarchs that have taken over your country are more than happy to enjoy a little drug use on the side. As for the beauty of the Russian woman, some are absolutely gorgeous, others can be downright dowdy and frumpish, especially as they age. Every country has their variability in beauty standards. Russia has no lock on beauty. Age erases all beauty over time anyway.

sigma wrote:As for the video. Reporters interviewed the members of the lower strata of the population, who are dissatisfied with the dust from the construction, but which have just can not figure out what the global infrastructure of the city has attracted an influx of tourists and investors raise their standard of living. In addition, a large number of people affected at a construction site, got a new home elsewhere or compensation in monetary terms. But foreign journalists because unprofitable to do a report about it, is not it? =)
You asked how the government is struggling with a genetic influence on the Russian gene pool. I do not know how. But Russia is still very, very few members of quite alien races, like the Arabs , blacks, Chinese, Vietnamese , etc.

So the poor lower status in that little village have to suffer for Putin's national show? How socialistic is that to be happening in a former socialist state? I bet Lenin would roll over in his grave to see how his poor peasants are being treated in their own village, just to cater to the Olympics. As for the influx of tourist money, that's true, but only as long as the Olympics are going on. Once they're over, what then? If history is any indication, many of these cities become decaying wastelands of disuse, because the government no longer wants to dole out the money to maintain and support them.

http://io9.com/after-the-games-photogra ... -503372635

tunnelcat, tunnelcat, tunnelcat... Any sober person always reveal a person under the influence of alcohol or drugs simple in appearance and behavior. Called international Olympics - show of Putin, it is perfect! Bravo, America!)))
Next time buy in Internet new brains instead of drugs...

Hehe Slick:P

Sigma, I most certainly believe in headship and authority over a woman, but to me that means to care for her just like she was my own body