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Socialist paradise...
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:41 pm
by Nightshade
Seems the socialist paradise of Venezuela is going up in smoke...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-1 ... ition.html
Is This the End of Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela?
In the midst of runaway violence, inflation, and shortages of basic goods, Venezuela’s youth have taken to the streets—to take on its Orwellian government.
“I want to get out of here. I want to leave this country as soon as possible and never come back.”
The text from my friend Luis surprised me. A lawyer by training, he got his masters in urban planning from an elite Manhattan university, and had returned to Venezuela full of hope. He was hired by a local NGO working on poverty abatement issues. But now, he’s fed up.
“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”
Luis’s story is a depressingly common one on the streets of Venezuela’s major urban centers. The nation’s young people are tired of enduring one of the world’s highest inflation rates, highest murder rates, scarcity of basic staples like toilet paper, and the near certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better. A few days ago, the Associated Press reported on Venezuelans camping on the sidewalk to get information about emigrating to Ireland...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... picks=true
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:23 pm
by Ferno
Sometimes I think the only reason I come here is to read to these wonderful posts of yours...
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:17 pm
by Tunnelcat
I think TB must have been beaten up by liberals in his past. Wait a minute. Is that even possible?
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:47 pm
by Top Gun
I'm wondering if he honestly thinks that any of us are pro-Venezuela.
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:00 am
by Tunnelcat
Oh, he thinks that Obama is schoomzing and boozing with Hugo, and that they're secretly plotting to destroy and imprison every conservative God-fearing capitalist on the planet.
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:34 am
by Top Gun
Ah, right.
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:39 am
by Nightshade
tunnelcat wrote:Oh, he thinks that Obama is schoomzing and boozing with Hugo, and that they're secretly plotting to destroy and imprison every conservative God-fearing capitalist on the planet.
More like Obama and the democrats are moving us in the direction of greater 'socialism.'
Big government doesn't have the answers and usually causes ALL the problems.
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:17 am
by snoopy
ThunderBunny wrote:Big government doesn't have the answers and usually causes ALL the problems.
This is like one of those "guns don't kill people, I kill people" bumper stickers for me. Honestly, I think that in a perfect world socialism is the way to go...
The real problem isn't any particular government system, it's us greedy, proud, and lazy humans that ruin it.
That being said.... I think socialism does a poor job of mitigating our bad tenancies, and capitalism does a *better* job.
So I think it's quite a misrepresentation to say that big government causes ALL the problems, but I do agree that it doesn't have [all of] the answers.
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:44 am
by Tunnelcat
ThunderBunny wrote:tunnelcat wrote:Oh, he thinks that Obama is schoomzing and boozing with Hugo, and that they're secretly plotting to destroy and imprison every conservative God-fearing capitalist on the planet.
More like Obama and the democrats are moving us in the direction of greater 'socialism.'
Big government doesn't have the answers and usually causes ALL the problems.
We aren't even anywhere NEAR achieving true socialism, nor is Obama even trying to get there. He's been schmoozing with big business ever since he got in office. Even Obamacare is a giveaway to big business. You say big government is bad? That's probably true, anything is bad taken to the extreme, even socialism. But I say big corporate-controlled societies are just as bad, if not worse, for the common person. You DO have the chance to vote out Obama, or any other Democrat you don't like, at least in our present system. However, I see that rapidly becoming impossible to do with the big money interests and wealthy politicians who want to cater to them running Washington. There's no way to vote out a Plutocrat or Aristocrat either once they own you and the government either. Don't believe me? Check out the attitude of this arrogant ultra rich bastard. He wants the system I just described.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/14/investi ... index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/26/investi ... stallnacht
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:57 pm
by callmeslick
tunnelcat wrote:Oh, he thinks that Obama is schoomzing and boozing with Hugo, and that they're secretly plotting to destroy and imprison every conservative God-fearing capitalist on the planet.
which explains why they just expelled his diplomatic representatives?
indeed.
Re: Socialist paradise...
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:00 pm
by Nightshade
Will it be Obama lied, Obamacare patients died?
Socialists and statists don't seem to live in our reality.
