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WW3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:40 pm
by woodchip
With part of the Ukraine's army defecting and Nato stepping up air sorties and ground patrols along the alliances eastern boarder I can see where we are slowly being sucked into another war. I mean in this day and age, what is going on is something you'd expect in middle eastern countries or Africa...not in civilized Europe. All it will take is one misstep and a cascade effect of retaliations will take hold. I just have to wonder if either side will be able to keep from using nukes if they begin to lose. If they can't, the world will be re-shaped in a not so pretty manner.
Re: WW3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:28 pm
by Ferno
Did you watch Hunt for Red October and have a bad dream?
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:57 am
by callmeslick
it was the enchiladas talking.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:16 am
by woodchip
Ferno wrote:Did you watch Hunt for Red October and have a bad dream?
Did you read how WW2 in Europe got started? No? Pity.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:43 am
by callmeslick
actually, WW I may be a better analogy. At least in terms of entanglement of alliances and overall scope. Yes, the annexation reminds one of WW II.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:04 pm
by sigma
And the most offensively, still alive veterans of the WW2. Severe combat soldiers, who can not speak about their memories without tears. I do not want to think even about what's going on in their hearts now. It turns out that their experience taught nothing future generations. After graduating from the most terrible war in human history, only took 69 years ...
No less sad that millions of people can die again the fault of excessive self-importance of a handful of politicians. Through no fault of blind nature as a result of global natural disaster, or as a result of the fall of a large meteorite... Only the fault of some politicians who have decided to show the world his military dick to prove that it is big. Perhaps in reality they are so small their dick, that they have like to compensate this deficiency for this increased aggression.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:09 pm
by Tunnelcat
Wow, I wonder what the Russians think of this? And the U.S. thinks that Russia should stay out of Ukraine. What bald faced hypocrisy.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:35 pm
by Top Gun
I fail to see how aiding in the training of African militaries to help them against al-Qaeda militants is remotely like illegally invading and annexing a sovereign country.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:52 pm
by Tunnelcat
Once we've spent all that money and effort to get our foot in the door, who's going to force us to leave? Some pipsqueak despot? Russia? And why would we leave? We're entrenched there now with our bases. Dammit, I think that America should quit being the World's police IMHO. It's bankrupting us for one and undercutting our moral standing in the world. We tell Russia to stay out of Ukraine, but we saunter into any nation we want to, like the arrogant bullies we are. Why are we even over there militarily anyway? Two words, Al Qaeda. I'll just bet there's some other reason as well, something to do with our energy or economic security.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:45 pm
by sigma
tunnelcat wrote:Wow, I wonder what the Russians think of this?
I did not want to talk about it nothing. This is similar to a typical report of the American military official who is trying to create the appearance of its use, at least as something to justify their salaries and U.S. military spending. While in Russia negros have the opportunity to receive higher humanitarian and technical education, the United States prefers to teach the blacks in Africa military training, skills, saboteurs and terrorists. To Africa was more military conflicts, civil wars and wage war, which for American money ready to shoot even his own mother. To use African mercenaries instead of American soldiers in armed conflicts in other countries. To the United States had the opportunity to sell their weapons unhappy Africans in exchange for diamonds, aluminum alumina and other natural resources. If you want my opinion.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:22 pm
by Tunnelcat
Hadn't thought of it quite that way, but hey, it describes our military and economic policy quite succinctly.
Re: WW3
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:12 pm
by Ferno
woodchip wrote:Did you read how WW2 in Europe got started? No? Pity.
Oh what you don't know could fill a book.
Re: WW3
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:42 am
by flip
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Re: WW3
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:10 pm
by woodchip
Ferno wrote:woodchip wrote:Did you read how WW2 in Europe got started? No? Pity.
Oh what you don't know could fill a book.
And whose book is this out of?:
"The Jewish community of the east Ukrainian city of Donetsk asked for additional police protection after anti-Semitic pamphlets were distributed in the region, where the government has been battling separatists. "
"The pamphlet, purporting to be signed by Denis Pushilin, the leader of the Donetsk People’s Republic separatist group, said Jewish people were required to register with authorities. They were a form of provocation and the Donetsk People’s Republic had nothing to do with them, said Alexander Maltsev, a spokesman for the group. "
Re: WW3
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:19 pm
by Ferno
If you're seriously suggesting that there is some sort of jewish persecution involved, a resurgence of national socialism, or all the events are an exact matchup to the invasion of poland, I think you really should take some time to re-learn history.
Re: WW3
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:15 pm
by woodchip
Ferny, you should learning to read with a more exacting eye to detail. Did I ever use the word "exact". Stop making replies to cover up for your own inadequacies.
Re: WW3
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:28 pm
by Ferno
because insinuating that this is the start of world war three based on a report of antisemitism, and invoking the spectre of nuclear war is something you didn't do...