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Sorry Vision, this is not quite what you are knee jerking thinking about. In Michigan the voters (myself included) voted to ban the use of race in determining college admissions. For this there are some who call Michigan voters racist most notably:

"Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia faulted Justice Sonia Sotomayor for making what he regards as a "shameful" suggestion that the Michigan voters who decided to ban affirmative action in college admissions were motivated by racism."

SCOTUS found in favor of the Michigan law and vindicates those of us who never believed race should be a factor for special treatment. College admissions are just the first step, hopefully race as a factor in jobs will be another item eliminated. Your thoughts appreciated.

As a aside, how many of you even heard of the decision by your news sources?

It was reported pretty much everywhere, as almost every Supreme Court decision is, so I'm not sure what you're implying.

Top Gun wrote:It was reported pretty much everywhere, as almost every Supreme Court decision is, so I'm not sure what you're implying.

If Jon Stewart hasn't figured out a funny line for it you might be surprised how many people would say they haven't heard it in their daily news programming.

As for ending the law, if you never take training wheels off you aren't a bike rider.

My guess is Michigan is claiming there is no need and where there is no need, left in place, the law becomes an impediment instead of an aid.

woodchip wrote:Your thoughts appreciated.

We will have to let the numbers speak for themselves in a few years. People are free to vote for whatever they think is best. Affirmative Action is something that needs continual re-evaluation. But it's nice to see you have your race-hardon all worked lubed up and waving around for everyone. Classy start to a thread that I'm sure is going to be shining example of elegant discourse and a model for future studies.

Lol!

vision wrote:

woodchip wrote:Your thoughts appreciated.

We will have to let the numbers speak for themselves in a few years. People are free to vote for whatever they think is best. Affirmative Action is something that needs continual re-evaluation. But it's nice to see you have your race-hardon all worked lubed up and waving around for everyone. Classy start to a thread that I'm sure is going to be shining example of elegant discourse and a model for future studies.

Lol indeed!
Such an objective view to encourage that discourse you lament...in advance....without letting the people speak for themselves.

As for the numbers being allowed to speak for themselves. Oh were it possible! But sadly they are usually told to shut up, rework themselves to tell a lie.

Number of murders in your city, number of illegals arrested and deported, number of people who have healthcare, number of people unemployed, number of people being spied on by NSA, etc. etc.
It is an industry unto itself teaching those numbers how to talk.

vision wrote: But it's nice to see you have your race-hardon all worked lubed up and waving around for everyone.

You are confusing me with SCJ Sotomayor and last I knew she didn't have a hard-on to wave around.

vision wrote:Classy start to a thread that I'm sure is going to be shining example of elegant discourse and a model for future studies.

With you leading the charge, I can see the sewer backing up already. Still afraid to start those elegant discourse topics I see. Failed on your one and only attempt so now you will hurt us by not trying again. I bet Cleatus and Jethro could do better than you. Me waits for Ferno to chime in.

woodchip wrote:1) With you leading the charge, I can see the sewer backing up already.
2) Still afraid to start those elegant discourse topics I see.
3) Failed on your one and only attempt so now you will hurt us by not trying again.

1) You started the thread. I'm not leading the charge. I'm not even the 2nd or 3rd poster.

2) Not afraid to start a topic, but no point since the audience here is lacking. For example, you and your wildman ranting in this thread. You claim I am "leading the charge" when I am only responding to your call. You wanted to know what I think, and I think Affirmative Action needs constant reevaluation, people are free to vote how they want, and time will tell if this is a good or bad decision. Was this not the response you expected? Don't answer because I actually don't give a ★■◆● (but for some reason you care enough about me to mention my name in your original post? How darling!).

3) See above. We have already discussed this. The extent of your discourse can be summed up as "der her Obama socialist." The height of your brow is reflected in the avatar you choose to display. We are not writing on the same level and I don't have a lot of experience penning children's books. However, I am pretty good at drawing so maybe I can sketch out some ideas for you to drool on.

Run along now and wave your white pride flag with all the other kids.

I think what he meant is that your envisioned world of enlightenment and goodwill will really be full of a bunch of douchebags that can't even be decent or civil.

flip wrote:I think what he meant is that your envisioned world of enlightenment and goodwill will really be full of a bunch of douchebags that can't even be decent or civil.

More wisdom from "the indoctrinated." One day, Internet archeologists will discover your theory of graviton sound waves and propel you to posthumous fame. Your words will be stripped from this forum into a holy book, the New New Testament: Book of Flip.

Affirmative Action was originally meant to right past wrongs against minorities. It was never meant to be a permanent solution. However, we shall see if all those past wrongs return as common policy in Michigan Universities yet again. Old habits die hard. Time will tell.

Maybe so Vision, they already understand the underlying principle:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/acoust ... tation.htm

At least my indoctrination is of my own creation.

Although, If I was gonna define them , it would be anti-graviton acoustics.

EDIT: In fact, As Spidey pointed out in another thread, there has to be a counter-part, even to gravity.

A pull and a push. Now, not that I really know what the push is, but considering waveforms can be depicted by the unique shapes each one creates AND acoustic levitation, it seems worth investigating. Maybe you can help with the definitions.

EDIT: In fact, maybe it's the other way around.

Well, JFTR I was speaking of relative concepts, not as an absolute. (hence the examples)

Gravity is most likely an effect, hard to say if it has an opposite or not…it would in its conceptual form…Pull…Push.

In physics it not about opposites, but more like negative versions. Example…Proton…Anti-Proton

Sorry for the confusion.

Well, my point is that gravity can obviously be overcome by acoustics. I didn't mean it in the absolute sense either. It's hard to conceptualize physics anyways and with this crowd I try to cater to the lowest-common denominator, because more than likely acoustics do play a role in helping our Universe maintain stability, but only with interaction.

EDIT: I think it's safe to say that an observable counter to gravity can be acoustic.

And just to set the record straight, I do not mean to say acoustics in the strictest sense of the word but to take the concept and transfer it over to the interaction between gravity and electromagnetic waves on a cosmic scale. I've learned that playfulness with words is a big no-no here!

EDIT: LOL! Tractor Beams for the trekkies

flip wrote:Well, my point is that gravity can obviously be overcome by acoustics. I didn't mean it in the absolute sense either. It's hard to conceptualize physics anyways and with this crowd I try to cater to the lowest-common denominator, because more than likely acoustics do play a role in helping our Universe maintain stability, but only with interaction.

EDIT: I think it's safe to say that an observable counter to gravity can be acoustic.

Post your whitepaper on said hypothesis.

You know Ferno, one of the things I enjoyed the most was the brainstorming sessions. Take that picture for instance of using sound waves to cause the water to levitate. I like working within a body. It's more fun that way and you get to feed off each other, which is how it is supposed to be. I guess that's what I've always tried to relive on this board but you guys are incapable because your too negative and mean-spirited. So, I just brainstorm with My Lord now and when push comes to shove I'll be able to MacGyver my way through while you guys bite and destroy each other. Have fun with that.

flip wrote:So, I just brainstorm with My Lord now and when push comes to shove I'll be able to MacGyver my way through while you guys bite and destroy each other. Have fun with that.

There is no sign of conceit in that statement.

Hehe, priceless.

No hypothesis, not even a synopsis on your hypothesis.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

Now, not that I really know what the push is, but considering waveforms can be depicted by the unique shapes each one creates AND acoustic levitation, it seems worth investigating

I think there is something to it, but my thoughts are nowhere near organized to satisfy childish challenges. As I said before, it's an idea I got from watching waveforms depicted by sand, water levitated by sound waves and dust motes swirling by the Orbital Angular Momentum emitted by light waves. These seem worthy of, listen for it, "further investigation" to maybe deriving a unified theory. I wouldn't bother with trying to compete with the complexes exhibited on this board anyways. You people don't know how to conduct yourselves, your just trying to find somebody to vent your frustrations and feelings of inferiority on. I got nothing to prove to the likes of you anyways. I was just interested in having some fun conversations that may lead to be proven totally false or actually lead to something, but like I said, you guys are too negative and mean-spirited. Only God knows why but I'm sure there's a reason behind it

flip wrote:Only God knows why but I'm sure there's a reason behind it

But you just said it yourself while psychoanalyzing us: inferiority complex. Not sure why I would feel inferior in a conversation about physics with someone with almost understanding of it, but whatever you say electro-graviton man.

Lol!

You just think, what sacrifices Michael Jackson went to make America better than it is. He believed in the American God, he believed in the American dream. He made ​​a lot of painful plastic surgery, he took hormones, just to prove to white people that black people are no worse than white people. All his creation is screaming about the love of the people and to people of different nationalities have found mutual understanding between them. He surrounded himself with children, young people with clean thoughts and unspoiled psyche. And what was done to him? Perverts accused him of pedophilia, in accordance with their ideas of the perfect world. I think Michael did not die of old age. I think he died from injustice. He wanted to find justice in this world, but he did not find. Conclusion: The American Dream - it's ★■◆● in a nice wrapper.

LOL, who said Russian's don't have a sense of humor.

Ok, I know Russia is bound to be swimming in disinformation about the US but if sigma isn't some kind of comedian just posting this stuff for his own amusement then I'm feeling sorry for him and those that think he is onto something!

Sigma, in case you aren't joking, Michael Jackson was a lot of things, exploited and not raised in a proper fashion where he could experience normal life but he was also a mental case paranoid drug addict and quite likely a pedophile. Perhaps a most loving and nurturing pedophile but still ultimately a predator.

He wouldn't have lasted past age 24 if he was growing up like that in Russia and you would be denying he existed....

HA that some funny ★■◆● there sigma. They teach you that in Russian school?

Almost no school party in the United States can not do without drugs, every third American schoolgirl sexually abused, famous American actors openly propagandize unconventional sex, drug use advertise in American films, it's probably just a funny disinformation, I just do not think about it.

And you know this how?
Russian propaganda?

CUDA wrote:And you know this how?
Russian propaganda?

Its amazing any of us here are normal, according to sigma.

Indeed, I'm not well knew biography of Michael Jackson at the time when I wrote the first post... But it is interesting that my poor knowledge of the subject was perceived as Russian propaganda And by the way, in Russian schools do not study biographies of American artists.

no shock there. Likely you don't get biographies of a LOT of Western historical figures, nor, apparently, even accurate histories of your own culture.

callmeslick wrote:no shock there. Likely you don't get biographies of a LOT of Western historical figures, nor, apparently, even accurate histories of your own culture.

I'm beginning to suspect that you did not have luck to get at least one higher education. Otherwise you would know that the main thing - it does not know everything, but just have the ability timely to find necessary information.

sigma wrote:

callmeslick wrote:no shock there. Likely you don't get biographies of a LOT of Western historical figures, nor, apparently, even accurate histories of your own culture.

I'm beginning to suspect that you did not have luck to get at least one higher education

ahahahaha

sigma wrote:Indeed, I'm not well knew biography of Michael Jackson at the time when I wrote the first post... But it is interesting that my poor knowledge of the subject was perceived as Russian propaganda And by the way, in Russian schools do not study biographies of American artists.

Are you talking about American "artists" or "celebrities"? There's a difference. Michael Jackson was a celebrity who happened to write some great music. He was also a weird pervert, so even our schools shouldn't be teaching about him. We've studied Russian artists and composers in OUR schools as far back as I can remember, so why don't Russian schools teach about true American artists and composers, or are Russians afraid of learning something other than lies about America?

I meant American composers and performers. Actually I graduated from music school, piano and accordion. When I performed at concerts and even the orchestra. But it was a long time ago. Now I can hardly fulfill even Moonlight Sonata. Despite the fact that I am well acquainted with the work of Russian and European classical music, however, I hardly know the creativity of American composers. Now I prefer to listen to the American breaks. But I will observe with great interest the works of classic American composers, if you can give references.

Sigma--
Duke Ellington,Miles Davis, Fats Waller, George Gershwin are 4 names to get you started. Not 'classical' music, but great music from all of these
American composers.

Oh! George Gershwin's I know well!

the others contributed to Jazz, or helped it evolve into new realms. All worth a bit of looking up. It has to be a step up from the usual hate-America banter you've been digesting, Sigma.