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Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:01 pm
by sigma
U.S. simultaneously accuse Russia of supplying weapons for the people's volunteer corps in Ukraine, to counter Ukrainian fascists who just destroy innocent people. while, as the U.S. itself openly directed their military advisers, soldiers, weapons in Iraq. UN, OSCE and the European Union, the Western media, why is silent! But they come up with flimsy reasons and causes for new sanctions against Russia. Although the Russian armed forces in Ukraine simply no! I'm shocked... The world community has long been time to think about economic sanctions against the United States to their sober. U.S. general has already lost control of himself of their impunity.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:46 pm
by woodchip
Are you saying the Ukraine fascist are akin to the ISIS terrorist who wantonly kill people, who are so bad even AQ wants nothing to do with them? If so you better get your face out of the Russian controlled mediums dongle machine.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:47 pm
by Spidey
He is shocked!
Too bad it didn’t bring him back to reality.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:03 pm
by callmeslick
lord knows I've disagreed with Sigma, but he makes an EXTREMELY valid point. Whether or not one can directly equate Ukrainian fascists with ISIS extremists, it is still a matter of outside nations arming factions within another sovereign nation. Whether any of us like it or not, this is EXACTLY why the US has lost international standing. Nothing to do with Obama, or even Bush.....we've been doing this sort of meddling for decades(as have the Russians), and have finally lost most of our moral standing.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:13 pm
by sigma
I want to say that the United States replace the concept of freedom and independence of other countries and peoples to the economic benefits the United States. Statue of Liberty has long been looking indignantly on U.S. actions. The American people are a disgrace to his own principles.
If you have oil, so you do not have democracy!
Spidey, all I want to tell you that Karl Marx was right.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:55 pm
by Spidey
Can't translate text on images.
Not that I give a ★■◆● what it says...just thought you might want to know.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:42 pm
by Top Gun
I'm assuming what he wrote right under it is the translation. I can pick out "democracy" from the Cyrillic at the end anyway.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:49 pm
by Spidey
Yea, but his translations suck...
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:34 am
by roid
I'm confused, why is OP angry about something other than the gigantic elephant in the room: which is the fact that Russia invaded a sovereign nation in a land-grab act of expansionism.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:41 am
by Krom
Decades of information control roid, the OP thinks what the Russian government wants him to think, so we get topics like this.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:44 am
by Will Robinson
Krom wrote:Because roid, the Russian state controlled media is telling all their citizens that it is all America's fault they had to go in and "stabilize" the nation.
The most convincing lies have a little truth mixed in. We have made telling that one easy. And Russians are programmed to receive.
Being Putin is easy.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:29 am
by sigma
See, the USA in different countries support or opposition, or legitimate government. Depending on the economic and political benefits of the United States. Intervention and the U.S. intervention in other countries has no relation to the struggle for justice and freedom disadvantaged peoples and nationalities. In the case of Ukraine, the U.S. was interested in establishing American control over the Ukrainian gas-oil transportation system, to get more leverage and control decisions of European and Russian politicians on the basis of partnerships destruction of the European Union and Russia in the performance of its contractual supply energy to Europe. Including the U.S. goal was to establish control over the military bases of the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea for the creation of American ground and naval bases. Republic of Crimea held a referendum and decided to join the Russian Federation, in order to avoid the influence of Ukrainian fascists and American tyranny. Today there is no war in the Crimea, the Crimean citizens of the new federal district of Russia got all the benefits of the citizens of Russia.
As in the West accepted distort information about real events to represent Russia in the worst light as possible, I will try to explain what is happening in Ukraine actually. Once in Ukraine clearly outlined conflict between the authorities, the U.S. and NATO immediately intervened in the internal affairs of Ukraine to the spheres of influence in favor of the United States, Ukrainian fascists began openly to destroy the Russian population in the regions of Ukraine, where the concentration of Russian population is high. It is as if the U.S. fascists began to destroy Russians in the United States. Including using prohibited weapons and complete information support the American media, explaining that this Russian population of the U.S. attacked the United States. If Russian women and children, tens of thousands fleeing into Russia, but Russian men remained on the ground of his longtime residence in Ukraine to defend their homes and their land from Ukrainian fascists. Russian population has repeatedly called on the international community to recognize the independence of the regions of their permanent residence. But the UN and other international organizations, or silent, or retransmit the U.S. point of view. But they are trying to come up with new economic sanctions against Russia, which does not even interfere in Ukrainian conflict and only continues to receive and protect refugees Ukrainian, which Ukrainian fascists shot while trying to flee to Russia. Believe it or not.
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:34 am
by woodchip
So sigma, the People Volunteer Corp is the legitimate govt in Ukraine and the Maliki govt in Iraq is not?
Re: Where is the justice and the law?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:51 am
by sigma
woodchip wrote:So sigma, the People Volunteer Corp is the legitimate govt in Ukraine and the Maliki govt in Iraq is not?
They want to gain independence from Ukraine and obtain the status of the new state.
With regard to Iraq, I can not say for sure that there is actually going on. I have not studied in detail a new conflict in Iraq. But I can imagine that the U.S. acts in Iraq in his typical style.
U.S. constantly afraid of the threat posed by Russia, though, if it does not touch it, any threat to the West, Russia is not. U.S. is doing in order to divert public attention from the illegal actions of the United States. Figuratively speaking, the United States similar to the thief who stole money at work, but regularly scheming and he will be the first, who accuses others employees of stealing